Got it all unbolted, now what?

diablostang

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Long story short, my (former) 94 GT has a blown head gasket, so I'm replacing it. I've got everything unbolted down to the heads, and the passenger head is completely unbolted... How do I get it loose now? I can't find a good place to pry it loose from.....


Thanks, and sorry for the newb post, this is the deepest into an engine I've been.
 
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diablostang said:
Does the lower intake need to come off to take the heads off? :(

If so, can anyone point me to some tips on doing that.. I understand I gotta mess with the timing?

im getting ready to do my head swap in a few weeks and everything i read so far said to take the intake off. there is a sticky on top of one of the tech sections or do a search and you should find some help.
 
yeah man, sorry, but you gotta do that. just be before you pull it off, all the hoses (vacume, heater core, water pump...etc) and also, for the fuel lines, youll need a "fuel line disconnect tool" now dont get discouraged, go to your local parts store and pick a set up, there just little plastic clips, then just make sure and make sure again that all your electrical harnesses and what not are undone, i dont know on the 94/95's, but on my 93 there was a ground going from the drivers side head, to the firewall, on that same bolt, thare was a wire connected that tied into the wiring harness for the injectors and what not. heres a tip: keep as much stuff on the lower plenum as possable, double check everything before you pull it off, and don't forget the heater core hoses.


i know you can do it man, ive done it like twice in the last month, and i'll tell you, dont think ahead, just take it one step at a time, its the best way to keep your sanity. this is the stuff that turns you into a man, hang in there dude, and good luck. if you need anymore questions just pm me or something.

hey, wait a minute...you asked about the lower intake right? ok good
 
yes the lower intake must come off. 10 bolts i think. 5 per side. be sure to drain the coolant out as much as possible cause the lower head bolts go into the water passage. the distributor doesn't HAVE to come out, but will make it easier for removing and reinstalling the lower intake. just put a small scribe mark or use a marker at the hold down, and also mark where the rotor is pointing to on the lower cap. if you can't the fuel rail to release, just unbolt the lower bracket on the side of the block(follow fuel line) and the swing the whole thing over and out of the way. also it helps to have a haynes or chiltons close by as well. it my give some help, but it is better than nothing.
 
diablostang said:
Does the lower intake need to come off to take the heads off? :(

If so, can anyone point me to some tips on doing that.. I understand I gotta mess with the timing?


Dude I hate to say it but if you are asking these kinds of questions you should not continue with this replacement. If you took a pry bar to it and didn't realize that you are only half way started then quit while you're ahead.

Another thing is you never just replace one head gasket, if you have it all apart do both of them.

I don't wanna sound like an a55hole but this job might be over your head <-----lol

good luck
 
ive found out that if you leave all the rockers bolted down tight. when you loosen all the head bolts the pressure from the springs will pop the seal between the head and the block. makes things a little easier
 
9T3SVT said:
Dude I hate to say it but if you are asking these kinds of questions you should not continue with this replacement. If you took a pry bar to it and didn't realize that you are only half way started then quit while you're ahead.

Another thing is you never just replace one head gasket, if you have it all apart do both of them.

I don't wanna sound like an a55hole but this job might be over your head <-----lol

good luck

:lol: :rlaugh:
 
Thanks for the advice y'all.

And yes, 9T3SVT, you're correct, I'm not experienced in this, but the only way I can learn is by doing it, and asking stupid questions, which is why when I pried a little, and it wouldn't budge, I came to ask questions.

I have no choice whether or not to do it myself, unless I want a nice lawn ornament ;) I appreciate the help everybody has given.
 
Well you have a good attitude about it, I'll give you that.

See if there are any local mustang clubs in your area and maybe some one can offer you some face to face advice. I wish you luck man :nice:




jrichker said:
Plan on 3 days to do the job if you haven't done it before.

Day one gets the heads off in 4-6 hours. The A/C Compressor comes off with lines still connected. Mark all the electrical, smog and vacuum lines with tags to help you remember where to re-connect them.

Day two gets all the gasket surfaces scraped off extra clean and the heads dropped off at the machine shop if you are going to have them reconditioned. Time here is another 4-6 hours. Whatever you do, don't skimp on cleaning the gasket surfaces. New gaskets need to seat against bare metal and not the residue left from the old gaskets in order to seal leak free. This is the most time consuming and tiresome part of the job. Look for little things that need to be replaced like the short hose from the thermostat hosing to the water pump, damaged vacuum lines and hose clamps that are rusted or broken.

Day three starts when you get the heads back from the machine shop. This is the time to pick up all the little odd pieces you found needing replacement on your day two inspection/cleanup. Plan on 6-8 hours to reinstall the heads and reconnect everything. Plan on an additional 2 hours to troubleshoot/adjust everything.

Now for some practical tips:

Plan on cutting the thermostat to water pump hose, or removing the thermostat housing. Also plan on removing the distributor to get clearance to remove the intake manifold. Remove #1 spark plug, stick your finger in the spark plug hole and crank. When your finger gets air moving past it, stop cranking. Turn the engine until the timing marks line up with the pointer. Now you can pull the distributor out.

You'll need new head bolts - get ARP bolts ($40) or studs ($93, maybe more). All the bolts get antiseize under the bolt heads, and everything but the short head bolts get it on the threads. You need Teflon pipe dope or ARP sealant to coat the threads of the short head bolts. The short bolts go into the water jacket and will seep coolant if you don't use the sealant.

My favorite trick that saves time and effort is the stay in place gasket. Be sure that you scrape (don't use a wire brush) all the old gasket material off, then clean all the surfaces with acetone or MEK.

When the surfaces are clean, use weather strip adhesive on the head to manifold surface, and on the side of the gasket that mates to the head. Follow the instructions on the tube or can and when it gets tacky, press the gasket down on the head.

Clean the area where the rubber rails mount to the block in front and in the rear with more acetone or MEK and do the same trick with the weather strip adhesive that you did to the heads.

Coat the rubber seals and the gasket area around the water passages with lots of Blue Silicone gasket sealer and put it together. Walla! No leaks and no gaskets that shifted out of place.

If you reuse the injectors from your old setup, a repair kit is available from most auto parts stores if needed. Coat the injector body "O" rings with oil before you use them and everything will slide back together.

For iron heads, clean the combustion chambers with a wire brush in an air or electric drill. I used a scraper for the pistons. I don't like to use the wire brush on pistons because it will remove metal very easily.

Change the oil once you get everything back together. Once the engine is up & running, run it for 1-2 hours and change the oil.

Tools: a good torque wrench is a must have item. A razor blade scraper that holds a single edge razor blade from Home Depot or Ace hardware is another handy thing. Get a Chilton or Haynes shop manual - you'll need it for the bolt torques and patterns. The intake manifold has an especially odd pattern. You'll need access to a timing light to set the timing after you re-stab the distributor.

Consumable parts:
Fuel injector seal kits with 2 O rings and a pintle cap (Borg-Warner P/N 274081) are available at Pep Boys auto parts. Cost is about $2.74 per kit. The pintle caps fit either injectors with a pin sticking out the injector end or 4 with more tiny holes in the injector end. The following are listed at the Borg-Warner site ( http://www.borg-warner.com ) as being resellers of Borg-Warner parts:

http://www.partsplus.com/ or http://www.autovalue.com/ or http://www.pepboys.com/ or http://www.federatedautoparts.com/

Most of the links above have store locators for find a store in your area.

Head gaskets
upper manifold gasket
lower manifold gasket set.
Exhaust manifold gasket set
Rocker cover gaskets - look for the rubber ones with the steel bushings - Summit has them
Short formed hose between thermostat hosing and intake manifold
6 ft 7/64" or 1/8" vacuum hose
2 ft 1/2" heater hose
1 1/2 ft 5/8" heater hose
Blue Silicone sealer
ARP antiseize or equal for the bolts
ARP thread sealer or Teflon pipe dope for the short bolts.
4 each 3/4" hose clamps (spare item in case the old ones are bad)
4 each 1/2" hose clamps (spare item)
 
:jaw:

More involved than I realized. (All because of the lower intake :-/ )

Oh well.. Life is such, lol

It'll be a few weeks in the repair, I need to get a timing light & repair manual as well. My old Chiltons was for my 88, and I gave it to the guy who bought the car off me <He asked me where the Transmission dipstick was, so I think he can use the repair guide :p (It was a 5 spd)> I was happy to see the heads already had ARP bolts in.

I'll be around to ask more stupid questions in a bit.