Need some help ASAP.. Please!

BurningRubber

BurningRubber

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Heres the deal. Im looking to buy a 97 GT 5 speed. Body is in great shape, with just one knick on the bumper. New crystal headlights, aftermarket H-pipe w/ flows and a CAI. Interior is leather, its decently clean but has wear on the drivers seat. Heres the problem. They just did (less than 10 miles ago) the manifold swap to the metal crossover. The old one leaked, so they fixed it.. so on. So I go and start the car, and it cranks right up, no smoke that I saw, idles fine. I pop the hood.. theres a little squeek coming from the accecories area, im guessing loose belt. So I grab the TB and revv it a few times, it revvs right up.. but it felt like it missed a little. So I asked if I could take it out, and they said sure. I got on the road and it felt fine, and I went to make a turn and got on the gas a little bit and could feel it missing. It didnt feel like it was down on power a whole lot, maybe a little though. It only misses under load though. Car doesnt run hot, shifts fine.. just misses. Took it up to about 4k and it still misses. I told the guy it needs a tune pretty bad, and he said if I liked the car enough they would take care of it. My question is.. is it possible they screwed up puttin the manifold on? Or do you think its probaly time for a tune. The wires didnt look new, nor did the little box thing the wires come from (I know what it is, but I cant think of what its called.. im used to distibutors, lol.) Anyway, they are asking 4500 for it negotiable. Its got 133k on it. Only other concern I have is they might have re-sprayed it. Its an auttum orange like in color, but under the hood its a little darker. I didnt notice anything bent up under the hood though.. and the car is tight when it drives, and brakes are good too. If anyone has any advice id GREATLY appreciate it, cause I need to get back to the guy soon.

Thanks guys.
 

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the missing can be alot of things, plugs, wires, vaccum leaks, ETC. it could also be if the previous owenr put a PI intake from the 99 and up cars on there and didnt seal it properly, this caused my car to miss a little like that. however i fixed it by taking it off and RTVing and using new gasgets. look behind the alternator and see if the intake goes all the way down to the valley of the block, if it does its a PI intake, if theres a little space (1-2 inches) then its a non PI intake intended for that car and that shouldnt be the problem. As to the paint, its possible it was repsrayed, check the door jambs and lift on the trim panles there to see if the colors differ. other than that offer them 3800 on it and be happy!

Ryan
 
#3
kovacs22 said:
the missing can be alot of things, plugs, wires, vaccum leaks, ETC. it could also be if the previous owenr put a PI intake from the 99 and up cars on there and didnt seal it properly, this caused my car to miss a little like that. however i fixed it by taking it off and RTVing and using new gasgets. look behind the alternator and see if the intake goes all the way down to the valley of the block, if it does its a PI intake, if theres a little space (1-2 inches) then its a non PI intake intended for that car and that shouldnt be the problem. As to the paint, its possible it was repsrayed, check the door jambs and lift on the trim panles there to see if the colors differ. other than that offer them 3800 on it and be happy!

Ryan
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Wow, now that you mention it.. You can actually see the whole vally under the intake manifold. I noticed some antifreeze left over there.. but it didnt really register. Is there spose to be something that covers it up? Cause its open from the bottom of the manifold to the valley. It was done by a shop, so I assume its a non-pi intake.. could be wrong though. I checked the door jams and didnt see any mis-matched color. So maybe its just factory.. I think I know what im looking at pretty well for not actually owning one of these cars yet.. I just dont want to start off by buying the wrong one.
 
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Now that I think about it theres another thing.. Looked like it had a 5.0 type radiator.. I didnt see the usual 4.6 overflow tank right behind the rad. I dont think my eyes are playing tricks on me either.. Oh well, im used to never finding a good one. Maybe I should just forget bout this one too. This sucks bad. Maybe ill stick to modding my Jeep..:(
 
#8
Kilgore Trout said:
Just take your time, keep looking and find the perfect Mustang :nice:
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I allready passed up the best 2 I could have found. Ill honestly be suprised if I find any more that were in as good as shape as these were, for the same price. #1 was a red 95 GT 5 speed. 84k, loaded power everything w/ leather.. mach sterio could have been mine for $5800. 2nd one was a white 95 GT 5 speed, cloth, power everything, no mach sterio, 93k for $4900.. Both were mint. I was so dumb not to buy either one. Ahh, to be young and stupid..:bang: Ive learned my lesson, now im just afriad im gonna get too jumpy and buy the wrong one.. I guess I should just chill out till the one comes along.

Or.. I could avoid the high-insurance, keep my Jeep and build a stroker engine for it, AND be faster than a few minor bolt on non-pi 4.6 guys.. mid-14's in the 1/4 mile. That would be funny chit, but it still isnt a V-8, doesnt have the Mustang sound.. ahhhh I need help.
 
#10
I'm betting with the leak it probably got into the plug wire hole and held some moisture. Have them change the plugs and wires and go at it again. Also...they did swap to another NPI intake. The PI would fill that valley alot. There is nothing that closes it up on an NPI car. The "little box things" are the coil packs.

It's not bad for the price but I'd have them clear up that miss before I did anything. I'm almost positive it is moisture in the plugs/wires.

Another thing to think about is if you are financing most banks won't loan you money for a car with over 100K miles. You would have to do a personal loan.
 
#11
coramprat said:
I'm betting with the leak it probably got into the plug wire hole and held some moisture. Have them change the plugs and wires and go at it again. Also...they did swap to another NPI intake. The PI would fill that valley alot. There is nothing that closes it up on an NPI car. The "little box things" are the coil packs.

It's not bad for the price but I'd have them clear up that miss before I did anything. I'm almost positive it is moisture in the plugs/wires.
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Well if the valley is normal, than no biggy. If they can fix the miss, even better. Ive got so many mixed feelings on it. Sucks hard!!! It just sounds sooo good.. Looks so good... Drives so good, cept for the miss...
 
#12
My car has over 140K miles...and I still go to the track at least once a month. Probably have over 50 runs on it now. It still runs strong and really the only major problems I've had were the intake leak and the throw out bearing. Otherwise its been a great car.
 
#13
Hey I had a jeep with a lift kit and had super swampers on it 35's LOVED THAT RIDE but, it has nothing on my 96 gt. The power alltho it's non PI at the moment is awsome when you floor it! If you can afford it get a 99+ gt more HP but i still love my 96 gt body style. good luck!
 
#14
jcint said:
Hey I had a jeep with a lift kit and had super swampers on it 35's LOVED THAT RIDE but, it has nothing on my 96 gt. The power alltho it's non PI at the moment is awsome when you floor it! If you can afford it get a 99+ gt more HP but i still love my 96 gt body style. good luck!
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Yep, my Cherokee is awesome.. Its quick and handles good for an SUV, and will go places its not spose to. Ive got a 2" lift on it, waiting on some mud terrains.. Have an intake, throttle body spacer and exhaust for a little more "umph".. But, Mustangs are my #1 passion.

You guys wanna know something funny though? And im not saying this to be a cawk or anything, but the 4.0 that is used in the majority of Jeeps can be built to 328 hp and 375 lb ft. all naturally aspirated. It just struck me funny. I know you 4.6 guys can be bored out to a 5.0, but isnt there a TON of work involved? W/ the 4.0 as long as you have a rock solid block, you can bore it to a full 5.0L, add a nice cam, aftermarket "big valve" head, minor fuel adjustments and misc. stuff and your at the mark. Not saying its cheap, but it is definatly do-able. Just thought i'd pass it along for anyone that is interested.
 
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