Baer Breaks? vs. Wilwood? vs. Stock Ford Disks?

[KDK1988GT]

Baer Brakes? vs. Wilwood? vs. Stock Ford Disks?

Baer Brakes? vs. Wilwood? vs. Stock Ford Disks?

Hey I'm doing a 5 lug conversion on my 1988 GT this winter. I'm looking into doing a full disk brake set-up on my car also. I was looking for some feedback on those who have done the same. What type of brakes would you guys suggest out of the three that I mentioned above in the title of this thread? I was also wondering how each of these brakes wear? Do they last as long or longer than the stock breaks? I'm just looking for the pros and cons I guess you can say.

I realize that the cost will be much cheaper for me to go with the newer stock disk brakes off of a newer car. Plus it's easer to get the replacement parts if they are needed, by just going to our local Ford Dealership or parts store.

Please submit a vote in the poll also thanks guys.

 

[carbed87]

pretty much anything other than stock is going to be a huge difference.

willwood, and bear are both great companies

 

[RacEoHolic330]

if money is not an issue, willwood all the way. There are reasons why they're in ferraris, porsches, evos, STi's and such. But if you don't got the bills for willwoods, then bears are pretty damn amazing as well.

 

[KDK1988GT]

I will be also going with the 94+ spindles

 

[Asha'man]

Brakes, not breaks.

Stock 13" Cobra brakes are functionally identical to the 13" Baer kit. Depends on if you want the "Baer" name and are willing to spend hundreds extra for it.

Brian

 

[tunedin302]

Brakes, not breaks.

Stock 13" Cobra brakes are functionally identical to the 13" Baer kit. Depends on if you want the "Baer" name and are willing to spend hundreds extra for it.

Brian

Asha'man - The front calipers are the same two piston PBR caliper but the rear calipers are different. Baer uses a much larger rear caliper from a corvette in their kit.

KDK1988GT - I just got done doing a write-up on Baers:

http://www.mustangupgrades.net/ford...BAER_install/baer_brakekit_tech_article.shtml

 

[Michael Yount]

The rear brakes do very little work on a Fox body -- the fronts do a good 80% of the stopping. So focus your efforts/dollars there.

How do you use the car? Unless your road race it (multiple high speed laps with repetitive hard braking), doing anything bigger than the Cobra stuff isn't going to stop you any quicker. The TIRES stop the car, not the brakes. If the brakes are capable holding the tire on the limit of adhesion for a full stop, then bigger brakes won't stop you any quicker. They will allow MULTIPLE stops without overheating the brakes and the resulting fade.

Keep in mind, to do the job correctly, most of the time there are master cylinder changes that need to occur, and the proportioning valve also needs to be matched to the system.

Most of the high performance European stuff runs Brembo components, not Wilwood. And Porsche engineers it's own brakes -- they've historically been one of the best stopping cars available. Both on the strength of the their brakes, and because in the case of the 911 and 914 - the weight bias of the car is rearward, which allows the rear brakes/tires to contribute significant stopping forces to the process. Most upgrades to Porsche systems involve using the 930 (turbo 911) calipers on lighter Brembo rotors.

Remember, the tires stop the car, not the brakes. When you can make weight distribution, or suspension changes that allow the rear tires to share the load with the front tires - stopping performance improves.

Don't forget good fluid (Motul is good stuff) and stainless brake lines to remove the flex that occurs in the rubber lines.

 

[KDK1988GT]

Brakes, not breaks.

Brian

it was a long day..

 

[broncobuddha]

For the money, I would say the Baer kit. It's complete with everything you'd need for the swap and is cheaper than the M2300 kit from Ford. You'll get axles, everything.

 

[KDK1988GT]

For the money, I would say the Baer kit. It's complete with everything you'd need for the swap and is cheaper than the M2300 kit from Ford. You'll get axles, everything.

can you get a set of 31 spline axels with the kit? Becasue that is what I'm running now.

 

[broncobuddha]

I'm not sure. Check Baer's site. They might have them.

 

[tunedin302]

can you get a set of 31 spline axels with the kit? Becasue that is what I'm running now.

Yup, 31 spline dutchman are optional

 

[352Ford2]

get cobra stuff, it's good and cheap, you can just get most of the stuff at your local napa just put your old stuff back in the boxes and return it and you don't even have to pay core charges.

you need to have a really serious setup to need anything more than cobra brakes on a road course (or not know how to drive)

 

[KDK1988GT]

a couple more questions

another question...

By me changing my spindels to the 94+ ones.. what is this really doing for me?

AND I have been hearing that if I do change the spindles this will mess with the cars geometry... is this true??

 

[bcd]

94+ spindles gives you more wheel options as well as a good starting point for the break upgrade. I would suggest the 99+ breaks you can get them cheap and they stop g00d even on the heavy 99+ cars so they would be great on lighter cars.