just put a new page on my cardomain webpage, check it out and let me know what you think. there is a picture of a neon project I made, the pic sucks, but looks pretty cool. also the difference between the crappy fogs vs. driving lights from walmart, I'd say they were worth 20 bucks, and they are brighter than my silverstars! any feedback is appreciated, some of the pics are for a local vinyl shop, to show me what they can do with ghost flames. They said it would be around 500 from front down the sides and on the doors. Thanks, chris