Well i would just like to share my experience with this setup... Ive had the MAC Axle Back Exhaust on for about 3 weeks (was my first mod) and just had the Pype O/R H-Pipe put on and OMFG! I love the sound and there is hardly any rasp and what little there is is drowned out by what sounds like a V20 engine This setup is loud though as my mechanic said he could hear every shift from about 1/4 mile away as i took it for a test drive...