I am Planning on dropping my fuel tank and I want to put in a Fuel Cell. Can anyone help? I need to know how to install, how and where to run the return line. And anything else.
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here is how I did mine. This particular cell will fit in the spare tire well. But I decided to build a new floor..
http://www.geocities.com/skiboyracing/fuelsystem.html
http://www.geocities.com/skiboyracing/fuelsystem.html
Where did you run the return line? Do you have to have a return line? Right now my fuel deadheads into my regulator.
I run a 10 an up to the Y block where it splits into two -8an's. One for each rail. then from the end of each rail I run another -8an to each side of the regulator. From the Reg I run an -8an return that follows the feed line back to the rear of the car where it meets a bulk head that goes through the floor. Then the -8an runs back to the return fitting in the cell. Where the gas fill neck went through the floor, I built a plate to cover the hole and run the return through it. For the vent, I run a -8an over to the where the gas fill cap went. Again I made a plate to block off that hole and put a K&N filter behind the fuel door for a vent to the outside of the car.
My mustang is carbed. Is there a way to run a 10an into a 6an? I have a 6an running from the fuel lines into my regulator, then out the regulator into the line on the carb. I have a 4 cyl car that my car is going to be a donor for, and i would like to put the fuel cell into the 4 cyl car, and run the lines before i start changing everything over.
I was looking at Fuel Cells on Summit and the ones that they have have a dual 8an feed line and anda 6an return line. But no vent line. Summit Part Number 290116. If you can point me in the right direction to find a fuel cell like the one you have that would be great.
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There is pretty much a fitting for any situation you can think of out there so I am sure you can find a reducer. Keep in mind that my system is set up for 1000+ hp. I don't know your combo or plans, but chances are a -8an feed and -6an return would be fine for you which may make it easier to hook up and or find reducers. I'm not a carb guy though so maybe Rick 91GT or someone who knows more about carbs will chime in if they think a 10an feed is way over kill..
My fuel cell is a Jazz. You can find it HERE under part # 547-251-116-01. I had foam installed in mine. I actually ordered it directly from Jazz with one -10an in the sump and a -8 return and -8 vent. If you want to order it specific for what you want then you can contact Jazz directly at 805-525-8800. Like I mentioned, this cell would have fit into my spare wheel well, I just decided to build a new floor.
My fuel cell is a Jazz. You can find it HERE under part # 547-251-116-01. I had foam installed in mine. I actually ordered it directly from Jazz with one -10an in the sump and a -8 return and -8 vent. If you want to order it specific for what you want then you can contact Jazz directly at 805-525-8800. Like I mentioned, this cell would have fit into my spare wheel well, I just decided to build a new floor.
4.6_02_Black_GT
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PonyBoy love the fuel cell setup looks great
Looking change my 2002 GT from returnless to a return system(regulator by-pass), so I', looking to go fuel cell or mod a stock tank with a sump.
Just two questions how much did the fab on the new steel floor cost you?? I dont have access to a welder so, if I opt for a new floor I will have to pay the sheet metal shop to do it. Also do you think you could have squeezed in a 20 gallon tank in between the tires?? My car is streetable so the 4 extra gallons would be nice.
Also how much wider could you have cut the hole in the trunk floor, looks like you could only go an inch or two more on each side of the spare tire well. The reason I ask is off course if I opt for a 20 gallon tank, just need an idea how wide I can go with the Sawzall.
Looking change my 2002 GT from returnless to a return system(regulator by-pass), so I', looking to go fuel cell or mod a stock tank with a sump.
Just two questions how much did the fab on the new steel floor cost you?? I dont have access to a welder so, if I opt for a new floor I will have to pay the sheet metal shop to do it. Also do you think you could have squeezed in a 20 gallon tank in between the tires?? My car is streetable so the 4 extra gallons would be nice.
Also how much wider could you have cut the hole in the trunk floor, looks like you could only go an inch or two more on each side of the spare tire well. The reason I ask is off course if I opt for a 20 gallon tank, just need an idea how wide I can go with the Sawzall.
4.6_02_Black_GT :
As you can see I didn't use all the spare wheel well so there is more room to go. I also concentrated on centering up the cell in the car so you could go bigger if you weren't hell bent on having it centered.. I have just enough room for the battery to sit on the passangers side and the outside bolt runs right next to the frame rail. So if you run a battery in the trunk or ever decide too, you can't go much more to the passangers side. Drivers side has room to spare. On the back side of it, you can see some of my original wheel well is still there. I would be carefull how far you push a cell toward the front of the car. I noticed my rear end with the T/A cover on it (which is a lot thicker than the stock tin cover" hit the old part of the wheel well underneath and "self clearanced" itself. No big deal but had that been my new trunk floor there would have been issues. So I would leave room on the back side of the well where it curves. Might be able to go back another inch or two? Best thing would be to measure it out from underneath and find a cell that's within them dimensions. My cell is a 16 gallon and my original thought was to mount it inside the wheel well. Part of the reason I went with that particular Jazz cell was due to the dimensions. Which if you didn't want to do a whole new floor it will fit inside the spare tire well. You would just have to cut out a spot for the sump and build a cover to go over it on the bottom side.
The sheet metal work I think was around 150-175 and I did all the cutting and welding for the install. I took them my cell and overall dimensions and they built the box. The only thing I wish I would have done though is build my own fuel cell out of aluminum. The Jazz cell has distorted over time. Like it vacumn itself inward. I run an 8an vent. Might have been better off with a 10an with my weldon 2025. Not sure exactly why it happened as it did it when the car was at the tuners and I don't know if it was a cell problem or a heavy battery got set on it when it was removed. Either way I may at some point pull the plastic one out and build an aluminum one. It'd look better too all polished up
As you can see I didn't use all the spare wheel well so there is more room to go. I also concentrated on centering up the cell in the car so you could go bigger if you weren't hell bent on having it centered.. I have just enough room for the battery to sit on the passangers side and the outside bolt runs right next to the frame rail. So if you run a battery in the trunk or ever decide too, you can't go much more to the passangers side. Drivers side has room to spare. On the back side of it, you can see some of my original wheel well is still there. I would be carefull how far you push a cell toward the front of the car. I noticed my rear end with the T/A cover on it (which is a lot thicker than the stock tin cover" hit the old part of the wheel well underneath and "self clearanced" itself. No big deal but had that been my new trunk floor there would have been issues. So I would leave room on the back side of the well where it curves. Might be able to go back another inch or two? Best thing would be to measure it out from underneath and find a cell that's within them dimensions. My cell is a 16 gallon and my original thought was to mount it inside the wheel well. Part of the reason I went with that particular Jazz cell was due to the dimensions. Which if you didn't want to do a whole new floor it will fit inside the spare tire well. You would just have to cut out a spot for the sump and build a cover to go over it on the bottom side.
The sheet metal work I think was around 150-175 and I did all the cutting and welding for the install. I took them my cell and overall dimensions and they built the box. The only thing I wish I would have done though is build my own fuel cell out of aluminum. The Jazz cell has distorted over time. Like it vacumn itself inward. I run an 8an vent. Might have been better off with a 10an with my weldon 2025. Not sure exactly why it happened as it did it when the car was at the tuners and I don't know if it was a cell problem or a heavy battery got set on it when it was removed. Either way I may at some point pull the plastic one out and build an aluminum one. It'd look better too all polished up
393Bird
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Here is how I did mine.
3 pages of details and pictures. I added a 2nd fitting to to top for a return.
http://members.tccoa.com/392bird/birdworka2.htm
3 pages of details and pictures. I added a 2nd fitting to to top for a return.
http://members.tccoa.com/392bird/birdworka2.htm
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