Has anyone out there used the do it yourself truck bedliner on their floorpans under the carpet. I replaced the carpet in my son's 66 coupe and used the sound deadner/insulation. After rolling bedliner in the other son's truck bed I thought it might serve the same purpose and not trap water underneath if we had a leak at some time. I also thought that it may work well and look good in the trunk for an active teenager. See any problems with the idea?
Bedliner under carpet or in trunk?
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I think thehueypilot did a review of this and it was not favorable I have been looking at http://www.lizardskin.com/ .
Hi Leener6357,
I'll start off by saying that I've never used the stuff before. Are you planning on replacing the normal underlayment with it? How thick is the roll on bedliner? Some of the pics that I've seen make it look pretty thick when finished. If it is thick you might want to be careful in areas where you screw or bolt things to the floorpans - like the seats. You may need longer bolts/screws. Also if it is really thick it may interfere with making the carpet lay flat. Also, doesn't the underlayment help give the carpet a cushier feeling?
As for the trunk you probably shouldn't seal over the top or the edges of the gas tank - in case you ever need to replace it. I'm not sure how easy it is to remove the bedliner stuff but considering it is for protection of a pickup truck bed it may be quite difficult to remove.
Just some random thoughts....
Craig
I'll start off by saying that I've never used the stuff before. Are you planning on replacing the normal underlayment with it? How thick is the roll on bedliner? Some of the pics that I've seen make it look pretty thick when finished. If it is thick you might want to be careful in areas where you screw or bolt things to the floorpans - like the seats. You may need longer bolts/screws. Also if it is really thick it may interfere with making the carpet lay flat. Also, doesn't the underlayment help give the carpet a cushier feeling?
As for the trunk you probably shouldn't seal over the top or the edges of the gas tank - in case you ever need to replace it. I'm not sure how easy it is to remove the bedliner stuff but considering it is for protection of a pickup truck bed it may be quite difficult to remove.
Just some random thoughts....
Craig
bad68coupe
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You will get nearly no insulation or sound deading out of a roll on bedliner. That lizard skin stuff is similiar to a roll in bedliner, but it has air-pockets that allow it to trap and reflect sound and heat, just as a styrofoam cup resits the heat of coffee. Bedliner is meant to protect against scratches, and corrosion. I think you would be alright with some trunk spatter paint, and normal sound/heat insulation mats. Rustoleum makes some great textured paint that you can use. :SNSign:
OK guys, thanks for the responses. You gave me some things to think about so I checked a few things out. First, the carpet underlayment sound deadening stuff sold by the various vendors is 5/16" thick asphault and plastic polymer. Herculiner DIY bedliner is polyurethane with rubber particles and Duplicolor DIY bedliner is vinyl and plastic polymers. It seems that you would have to get SOME insulation and sound deadening from the bedliner and it couldn't be drastically different from the underlayment. Even with multiple coats it would be tough to exceed 5/16" with the bedliner so no problems with bolts or carpet fit, etc. Of course if I did the trunk I would do the gas tank seperately and it does have a textured splatter paint look already. The Lizard Skin does look great but is 5 times the cost. The underlayment or bedliner would cost about the same. I couldn't find the review that said they had a problem with this but nobody responded favorably either. Still a bad idea?????
In case you're interested, I used a product called Sound Control... http://www.chemicar.com/water_sound.php . It was very easy to spray on, adhered very well, and is not thick at all. I also sprayed it on my old door (not being used) to test its durability. After giving it a few whacks with a wrench and other sharp objects, I have to say it is very durable!
302 coupe
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yep, the weight is what cancels sound.
Personally, I'd leave the bedliner stuff for truck beds and jeeps. I'm not sure why, but I hate seeing a nice car with goop sprayed everywhere in the trunk and underneath. Good surface preparation and a quality paint job is plenty durable for a mustang. If he's gonna be driving on snowy salted roads or hauling bags of cement or gravel in the trunk, then a 40 year old mustang isn't the car of choice. For typical driving and usage, paint is what you want. Use a mat type product for sound deadening under carpet.
Personally, I'd leave the bedliner stuff for truck beds and jeeps. I'm not sure why, but I hate seeing a nice car with goop sprayed everywhere in the trunk and underneath. Good surface preparation and a quality paint job is plenty durable for a mustang. If he's gonna be driving on snowy salted roads or hauling bags of cement or gravel in the trunk, then a 40 year old mustang isn't the car of choice. For typical driving and usage, paint is what you want. Use a mat type product for sound deadening under carpet.
Shakin66
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Well coming from someone who has done this I can tell you that after doing my floorpans with a few coats of bedliner and then after 3 days laying in "FATMAT" which is avalible on ebay much cheaper than Dynomat that it definatly deadens sound. I had a buddy wack the bottom of the pans and you could tell with one side done that it was going to make a differents. As far as how it looks....Its under my carpet.
Some pics can be seen here.
http://s32.photobucket.com/albums/d6/scatpro/
Some pics can be seen here.
http://s32.photobucket.com/albums/d6/scatpro/
302 coupe
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Shakin66
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Long story, but the short version is a local professional crook here in my town rented some equipment and didnt pay me for it. He lives in the nicest house in town and owes $ all over town. That sticker was my retaliation for his wife flipping me off. Classy folks.
302 coupe
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fair enough, I just thought it was interesting, lol. Sorry to hear about your misfortune though.
I'm starting to enjoy this forum... A couple of things I have to respond to.
First, "302 Coupe", I'm not talking about "spraying goop all over a nice car". I have two active teeneage boys, 18 & 19, one has a 66 Mustang and the other has a 76 Bronco. So we have the bad roads and cement or gravel in the back covered but NOT in a Mustang. We recently got our hands on a 73 Mach 1 that we are working on. After (1) putting carpet and underlayment in the 66, (2) Herculiner in the Bronco and (3) seeing how durable (not) a quality paint job is under "normal" teenage use which I consider to be daily driver with book bags and soccer or wrestling gear in the trunk I was just thinking about using the bedliner (tastefullu) under the carpet where nobody sees it and in the trunk where it resembles the spatter paint that has not held up well. I could go with carpet or the trunk mats but no protection and at least as expensive. So far I like the bedliner and Fat Mat suggestion but am open to other suggestions still. I guess we fall into the mild resto mod group because we try to stay close to stock with safety and practicality (no $) in mind but must consider we want to DRIVE (and drive and drive) these babies!
Second, "Shakin66" I like your style! (1) After seeing your photos I had to lol at your name. (2) Some of your photos should be in the hobby disctionary next to "wedging in"! (3) I have a brother that shafted me out of $5000 rent and some how I'm the bad guy for putting him out. When I saw your sign I LOL and called my wife in. Our sign will look great on our Suburban (don't hate me for one chebby. It's the Boss Lady's)
First, "302 Coupe", I'm not talking about "spraying goop all over a nice car". I have two active teeneage boys, 18 & 19, one has a 66 Mustang and the other has a 76 Bronco. So we have the bad roads and cement or gravel in the back covered but NOT in a Mustang. We recently got our hands on a 73 Mach 1 that we are working on. After (1) putting carpet and underlayment in the 66, (2) Herculiner in the Bronco and (3) seeing how durable (not) a quality paint job is under "normal" teenage use which I consider to be daily driver with book bags and soccer or wrestling gear in the trunk I was just thinking about using the bedliner (tastefullu) under the carpet where nobody sees it and in the trunk where it resembles the spatter paint that has not held up well. I could go with carpet or the trunk mats but no protection and at least as expensive. So far I like the bedliner and Fat Mat suggestion but am open to other suggestions still. I guess we fall into the mild resto mod group because we try to stay close to stock with safety and practicality (no $) in mind but must consider we want to DRIVE (and drive and drive) these babies!
Second, "Shakin66" I like your style! (1) After seeing your photos I had to lol at your name. (2) Some of your photos should be in the hobby disctionary next to "wedging in"! (3) I have a brother that shafted me out of $5000 rent and some how I'm the bad guy for putting him out. When I saw your sign I LOL and called my wife in. Our sign will look great on our Suburban (don't hate me for one chebby. It's the Boss Lady's)
Shakin66
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Well thanks for the encoragement, If you decide to go with the fat mat I had to buy a large roll of it and should have enough to get started and possibly finished with your son's car. I'll take $30.00 plus shipping if your interested let me know and I'll post a pic of the roll.
im getting ready to do under the carpeting on the 65 with the herculiner stuff also. but let me add, do not apply any kind of bedliner material over fresh paint! did a 41 ford street rod for a fellow, sprayed the underside of the fenders with herculiner, to cut down on star chips (old school, fat fender guys will know what im talking about!) anyway, the stuff attacked the 2k primer, and caused the worst case of lifting you would want to see.
302 coupe
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leener6357 said:
I got my car when I was 16 (ten years ago), daily drove it through my last 3 years of football and baseball at high school, carried my golf clubs, hunting gear, tool/tires/jack to the dragstrip etc, then I daily drove it through 5 years of college while switching apartments 4 times, carrying books, kegs, etc, still no damage. The paint in my trunk still looks fine.
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