LS1 vs 302H.O.
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Not jealousy. I like the LS1 motor. It's good stuff. It's just that it doesn't make sense to compare it to 5.0. Not in the same ball park.
Like everyone else said. It takes a LOT just to keep up.
Like everyone else said. It takes a LOT just to keep up.
90
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DmnStr8 said:
I bought an 81 vette a year ago that I was going to do that with, but vette parts are disgustingly expensive so I ended up selling it. that is one sexy car though.
spiff said:
Right, that's the comparison that no bowtie head makes because he knows there's no contest, it's always 5.0 vs. 5.7, and any time you mention 351 vs 351 they have to use the LS1. I think if Ford had plenty of goods to put on the 351 to make it "fast stock" like the Ls1 is but people forget that the 351 was primarily a truck engine and so that's what it was built for. If you take one of each and put similarly flowing intakes and heads on them with similar cams, you won't see much difference if any. Do the same with a 302 vs 305 and the 302 for whatever reason just out torques the 305 by a long shot. I had a buddy with a balanced and blue printed 305 tuned port in an '87 IROC and it couldn't keep up with a bone stock 5.0 '88 5 speed with speed density, let alone a MA 302.
25thmustang
Mustang Master
Or compare a 5.0 to other 5.0 Mustangs with similar mods. This is why I race heads up in Mustang racing. Theres no cubic inch dispute, no weight dispute, everyone gets the same rule book and goes at it.
I love LS1 cars, and like their owners (granted the owners might seem cocky when talking to a kid with a 14 second Mustang, who wouldnt?).
I love LS1 cars, and like their owners (granted the owners might seem cocky when talking to a kid with a 14 second Mustang, who wouldnt?).
25thmustang
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85_SS_302_Coupe said:
Actually a 305 will make more torque than a 302, but the 302 will rev higher, effectively giving it more power. The killer on the 305 was the bore and stroke design, which is why the 5.7 was twice the motor. It was a better design. A 305 T5 car (rare G92) would run right with a 5.0 5-speed car back in the day, and same with the L98 5.7 cars. The TPI 305s with autos were a little slower, the carbed stick cars slower than that and the TBI autos and such were just plain scary slow.
I dont see an issue with comparing two different cars, so long as you accept the outcome. I personally rather compare MY car to other Mustangs with similar work done, to see if I built it right!
millhouse
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ms93gt said:The LS1 is a great motor but I personally would much rather have a h/c/i 302 with a turbo....o wait I have thatBy the way I eat LS1's
And I ***** em out!
ill advised said:
Exactly
I love both the LS1 and the 5.0 i drive. The LS1 has been alot easier to get the power out of, but the 5.0 is just as fun to drive and mod. They are both great motors and easy to mod but after that the LS1 will come out on top mod for mod.
One thing i will say though the fox 5.0 gets the win for being a hell of alot easier to work under the hood on lol. While modding the LS1 now i've questioned alot of what GM has done and why they put the motor 75% under the god damn cowl.
89tang said:
Because the car looks like a Geo Storm on roids. They tried to hard with the aerodynamics and had to put the engine somewhere. It's pretty stupid really.
ryan218
In just 10 years, I'll be old enough to drive!!!!
LS1 are nice engines but the cars they are in to me,are ugly...a mustang is very good looking to me
but
stock ls1 vs stock 5.0.
the ls1 would take it.
but a 5.0 is the motor i like and the motor i am staying with.....never been a fan of anyhting chevy has done.
i mean its kinda like them with the vette.
vette owners rag on mustang owners but they have what over 300 and up horse power from the factory with a 6 speed.
the newest 5.0 you can get(in a mustang) is 93.
like on the net one day i saw. stock 88 mustang gets owned by a STOCK 2006 vette. im like well DUHHHHHHHHHH.
but
stock ls1 vs stock 5.0.
the ls1 would take it.
but a 5.0 is the motor i like and the motor i am staying with.....never been a fan of anyhting chevy has done.
i mean its kinda like them with the vette.
vette owners rag on mustang owners but they have what over 300 and up horse power from the factory with a 6 speed.
the newest 5.0 you can get(in a mustang) is 93.
like on the net one day i saw. stock 88 mustang gets owned by a STOCK 2006 vette. im like well DUHHHHHHHHHH.
ryan218 said:
Correction....the newest 5.0 you can get in a mustang is in a 95 Model. Just a tip of advice Ryan, I am a Ford Advocate, big fan, big passion. However, a true car nut appreciates most vehicles, not one specific model and make. Chevy makes great vehicles, so does ford, and rarely, but occasionally Dodge. I think most people could open their minds up a little bit. If I went rollin' by you in a Chevelle (or insert any great chev/dodge/ford) you would stop in your tracks to admire it, not go "what a piece of ____".
90
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mustang motors last 4ever... gm, not that long! imo! im happy with the mustang its like what 900lbs lighter? no complaints outta 5.0 from me!
rigamaroles said:
Well said....i'm a Ford man but i love fast cars alltogether, and i admire pretty much ANY car that can be made fast, import or domestic. Now, looks are a whole different ballgame...you can be fast and still look stupid doing it. I don't much mind the SS Camaros as much but without any kind of body kit they just look like a door wedge or something. If i were a Chevy guy i'd have to put an LS1 into an IROC or an older Camaro.
90mustang_GT5.0 said:
Yeah, my 302 has 250k+ on it and it's just now starting to smoke....i've never heard of an LS1 with that many miles.
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