What's harder to tune?

95GTV8

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I'm thinking of either doing a H/C/I or a supercharger.

I'll be adding aluminum heads, either AFR, Trickflow, or Edelbrock and the most 94-95 friendly Cam I can find.

On the other hand I could add a supercharger.

Which will be harder to tune? Will i need a tweecer for both, or only for one?
 
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95GTV8 said:
I'm thinking of either doing a H/C/I or a supercharger.

Both have their good and bad points :D

I'll be adding aluminum heads, either AFR, Trickflow, or Edelbrock and the most 94-95 friendly Cam I can find.

IMHO ...... that last part ...... Well let me say it like this ........
That is a mistake
That is a big mistake
That is a big bad mistake

That is ... if you are gonna use a Tweecer to tune ;)

That kind thinking is (again IMHO) exactly opposite to what you should be thinking :eek:

The phrase outta go something like ...............

I'm gonna choose the most aggressive cam I can find that would still be considered to be a street cam :banana:

I don't have ANY concern for the pcm not playing nice with my cam choice since I got a device (Tweecer) that can take care drivability issues :nice:

I'd even go so far as to tell you to NOT believe the internet myth of a cam choice with a narrow lsa is gonna drive the pcm nuts
and
you can't do ANYTHING about it.

Been there ... done that ... got the t-shirt :)
The Tweecer can take care of all that kind of thing :nice:

If you give consideration to the pcm due to it might cause drivability issues with your choice of combo parts ...............

Your gonna leave power on the table :bang:

That is based upon a NA combo and my findings with my 95 :)

On the other hand I could add a supercharger.

Which will be harder to tune? Will i need a tweecer for both, or only for one?

The blown combo will be more of a challenge than NA
and
For a beginner at self tuning ..........

I would not advise trying to learn on a forced induction combo
Heck
For a beginner ... I'd advise you to get started now and learn the ropes of self tuning before you do the h/c/i thing.

Just a word from one who done what you seek to do :shrug:

Grady
 
So, should I buy a Tweecer first and see how I manage with it? I have an old laptop, i'm just worried about the expenses adding up. I'm also not to tech savy, and with the limited info i hear about scalars, graphs, and tables it seems it could be a bit overwhelming at first.
 
You'll have to gauge how much effort you want to put into learning how to tune a car and balance that with the risks of making mistakes (which can be costly).

A chip and tune around here from a reputable SCT tuner here in Baton Rouge is $500 - great deal if you want to get your combo setup without worrying about breaking parts and just leave the modifications alone. I think a re-tune is somewhere around $200.

On the other hand if you're like me and disassembled your toys as a kid to figure out how they worked then self tuning may be an option for you. You'll spend a LOT of time spent reading and researching but it is a very fun process (at least for me).

The cost of the twEECer should be added to the cost of a laptop and also wideband O2... it's not the cheaper route if you plan on setting up your combo once and then not changing it.

I chose to go the self-tune route for my N/A (blown in a couple months) daily driver and I'm glad I did.

Wes
 
Stanger007 said:
On the other hand if you're like me and disassembled your toys as a kid to figure out how they worked then self tuning may be an option for you. You'll spend a LOT of time spent reading and researching but it is a very fun process (at least for me).

Wes

Wes points out some good things here IMHO :nice:

This says a whole lot about how it might be for those who are considering self tuning.

It has a lot to do with ones personality or viewpoint on things I believe.

If you are like the above type of peep Wes is talking about, you most likely will find self tuning to be something you enjoy learning.

I myself have had a lot of enjoyment with it :banana:

On the other hand ................

If you have reservations or possibly feel a bit intimidated by this kind of thing, you may find the experence to be somewhat exasperating, frustrating, or irritating.

Only you can decide for yourself :shrug:

You can usually get around 75% of the original purchase price of a Tweecer if you wanna sell it. I guess you could always try it and would not get all that much hurt speaking from a financial point of view if you found it was not for you.

If you wanna try it, I would not get into a wide band until you decide to stick with it or not :)

Grady