In today's age, 5.0s just aren't competitive...

[RWDtech]

5.0 not competitive? so start boring and stroking your motor, upgrade to a 351, 460, whatever floats your boat. theres no replacement for displacement. aftermarket heads and increased displacement will make your motor competitive with anything street worthy. not to mention boost, cams, intakes/fuel injection setups. pushrod V8's will still be very competitve until manufacturers start using solenoid operated valves and who knows what other crazy $hit

 

[ryan218]

It's A Stang Thang, you either love it, or hate it, AND I LOVE IT.

next time you out pay attention to who looking, there looking at you, not the bmw behind you or the caddie in front, anyone can buy a factory 400hp car, it take a car guy to "build" there own.

id rather have a 15 second stang then a 10 second caddie, caddies are nice, but not for the reasons i want.

think what you want,

Stanging for life! :d

 

[ryan218]

5.0's are cheap fun.
Sure they dont compare to a $40K+ car but you can build one on a budget and it will still be reasonably fast.

5.0's stock i think are fun as hell, stock they have a perfect power to weight ratio, i love our 5.0 and wouldent trade it for a newer stang. but theres allways mroe room for power.

stangs have the fun factor, and you vert guys know the 5.0 "pun" factor.

 

[Reed]

5.0's are cheap fun.
Sure they dont compare to a $40K+ car but you can build one on a budget and it will still be reasonably fast.

I'm only 21 and I've only had my Mustang for 2.5 years, but that is what I have come to appreciate about these cars.

People just like these cars, even to this day I am amazed at the size of the 5.0 community. My Mustang will probably be more powerful than any of the cars my friends own (which won't be important in the future, but for now is really fun ) and as long as I continue to have a passion for it's improvement and I still feel like a million bucks when I drive it, then that is the important thing.

5.0's stock i think are fun as hell

I remember the first time I got on the gas. I was used to driving my dad's Toyota Echo. I was like "wow, this thing has power!" The car is still stock motor and it is still fun.

 

[rickd93_lx]

mustang is a name that has history all over it, and represents an era in sports cars in the u.s.. every one of us who owns a stang fox or not knows its not the fastest or well handiling car when you get it but what it is is a MUSTANG, and so begins the bolt ons mods tuning, are new weekend project for the rest of our lives, and i wouldnt have it any other way. ive owned and sold several foxes and wrecked a few, every time i wrecked them i was looking for a new one the next day and every time i sold one i last about a month and i want another. i just got a 2.3 for a swap,(sold my fox 3 weeks ago). im about to buy a zo6 its a really well put together car, but ill tell you ill be bairied in my 93 SVT. just my 2

 

[ryan218]

I'm only 21 and I've only had my Mustang for 2.5 years, but that is what I have come to appreciate about these cars.

People just like these cars, even to this day I am amazed at the size of the 5.0 community. My Mustang will probably be more powerful than any of the cars my friends own (which won't be important in the future, but for now is really fun ) and as long as I continue to have a passion for it's improvement and I still feel like a million bucks when I drive it, then that is the important thing.


I remember the first time I got on the gas. I was used to driving my dad's Toyota Echo. I was like "wow, this thing has power!" The car is still stock motor and it is still fun.

my first time, was "ehh are those tires spinning" my first burnout.

ahh look at us stanger's....sharing there first times.

 

[Hissing Cobra]

I'm not all that impressed with the new, high priced cars. I like 'em but I don't bow down to them. Usually, the people that own them are not true car fanatics. I'd be willing to bet that most of them don't even like to get their hands dirty. To me, it's a status thing. It's almost like they're saying, "Look at my new $50,000 car. Isn't it awesome?" In the meantime, if the car got a flat tire, they'd probably be calling AAA instead of changing the tire themselves. This is just a general opinion and it obviously doesn't apply to everyone who owns a newer supercar.

My Fox is now 27 years old. It's not considered a classic like the '65 Stang was when it was that old. However, it still gets respect from not only the teenagers but also the guys in their 60's, who were in their early 30's when it came out. The best part of all, is that it was built by my brother and I. It's wasn't an "off the lot" car that anyone else can go buy. It's by no means the fastest, but it's not the slowest either.

Our Fox bodies are aging gracefully and some day will be considered the equivalent to the '57 Chevy, '69 Camaro and the original '65 Mustangs as an important part of Automotive history. They made our bodystyle for an unbelieveable 15 years. Far longer than any other platform in Mustang's history. That's something to be proud of and gives everyone an indication of just how popular this car has become.

 

[FastDriver]

haha, thanks... You guys are reminding me that it's about the passion, not just the need for speed....

I just bought a C5 Corvette, and the funny thing is that for all the car it is, the ol' '91 will get the garage, heh. I'm going to keep it forever. I plan to have a good time with it and to build it for the rest of my life.

I'm dead serious when I say the 'vette is going to be my beater, and the stang will be reserved for special occasions. I have no interest in modifying the vette, and I will sell it without reservation when the time is right. I intend to enjoy it as a sports car, but there really isn't another car that has a place in my heart the way that the stang does - new stangs don't even qualify.

Thank god my dream car is so cheap and easy to find.

Chris

 

[Daggar]

hehe...

I guess it's just something that gets in your blood. All guts and no refinement.

 

[89white50]

If you can't make a fox competitive for fractions less than these new cars you have some serious issues buddy...

a stroked motor stuff into a fox that will wiped the floor with JUST ABOUT anything you will run into on the road will cost you about 20 g's tops. You are an idiot if you think the crap coming out today if that much "faster." Obviously the chassis and amenities are better, what do you expect after 17+ years of technology. this may be the worst thought through thread i've read in a while.

 

[89white50]

What does it take to make a 5.0 competitive with the sports cars of today? Some type of forced induction without question. Realistically, though, 5.0s seem to be fading into the rear-view mirror.

Not much, no, and not many...

It used to be that LT1 owners were afraid of 5.0s because just a couple simple cheap bolt-ons had the potential of turning a 5.0 into something that an LT1 couldn't catch. With the LS1, 5.0s were still hanging on with the multitude of H/C/I combos out there that were cheap and how easily the work could be done. Now, the cars are so quick from the factory that fully worked 5.0s sometimes with forced induction are having problems keeping up. How embarrassing to take a supercharged 5.0 against a factory corvette and lose

worst comparison ever..... if you spent 50g's on ur car and you got beat by a stock corvette for reasons OTHER THAN traction issues....then please sell your car.

 

[mricci]

I just bought a C5 Corvette, and the funny thing is that for all the car it is, the ol' '91 will get the garage, heh. I'm going to keep it forever. I plan to have a good time with it and to build it for the rest of my life.

I read that and had a funny thought, my uncle who had a bmw 740il, and now has an 06 Cadillac Escalade EXT, and my aunt has a lexus SUV but his 1986 GT Vert always gets the garage.

 

[Speeds8erM-1]

This is why people need to break the mold and stop doing GT40 heads with a b cam and thinking they are gonna rule the world. Also streets are different than the track and somebody that runs great track times will soon find themselves getting passed by cars that run alot more mph unless you are racing line to line dead stop.

You cant have the 5.0 mentality when taking on todays stuff, most Mustang guys think that whatever is better than stock so it must be good but wonder why they come up short. There are almost NO fast n/a 5.0's on the STREET around here that are good and streetable but still haul ass.

The only one in years already pulled his motor and sold it, it was a GT converted to an LX with a 331, AFR 205's, AFM N91 Cam, Systemax Intake, 3.73's, G Force T5, still had ac and everything. Car ran 7.5's@95 MPH, the et could have been better with a good launch but the 95 MPH is what is shocking. He could have given ALOT of LS1 cars around here hell even from a roll on the street with that trap speed. Then again there are some nassssty 347 cube LS1's out there and even worse with the big engines. They start with more and improve on it, instead of starting with less and doing just enough to meet stock LS1 levels like alot of 5.0 guys do.

People have to stop thinking, b cam, f cam, gt40 this and that, sure there are a few cars that have basic combos like that and run decent but they arent gonna handle MOST correctly built HCI LS1 cars or even worse, a Z06 (something as light as a foxbody) of any vintage with a big camshaft and no tellin what else.

The nice thing is the Mustang can be made to do ANYTHING, you just have to be willing to think outside the box if you wanna be fast and not just a good et car with a good 60 ft.

 

[Daggar]

If you can't make a fox competitive for fractions less than these new cars you have some serious issues buddy...

a stroked motor stuff into a fox that will wiped the floor with JUST ABOUT anything you will run into on the road will cost you about 20 g's tops. You are an idiot if you think the crap coming out today if that much "faster." Obviously the chassis and amenities are better, what do you expect after 17+ years of technology. this may be the worst thought through thread i've read in a while.

Whoa! What's with all the hostility?

 

[Ozz]

There doesn't seem to be as many 5.0s up there in the North east.... I used to get a lot of attention up there because a clean well taken care of 5.0 was few and far between.. Down here, it seems, they're a dime a dozen.

One thing I still get a kick out of, though, is that when I show up at a street meet people usually have absolutely no idea where I stand in the pecking order. When mine was twin turboed some people wouldn't know and would underestimate the car trying to line me up with preludes, stock old corvettes and such while other people would talk **** about how a turbo 5.0 would stomp so-and-so's trailered race car, clearly giving my car too much credit. They do it for good reason.... there's just no telling what a fox has under its hood: it could be the slowest damned 88hp 2.3L stock 4 cylinder, or it could be the faster than that hayabusa sitting across the parking lot.

Chris

Where in the Northeast are you? There are 150-300 Stangs at most of the Mustang shows in CT every year.

 

[FastDriver]

If you can't make a fox competitive for fractions less than these new cars you have some serious issues buddy...

That isn't the point that I made. Yes you can do it for cheaper, but it still isn't cheap to do it. In fact, it's so expensive that even the vast majority of gear-heads can't or won't modify their fox to the level it takes to outrun these cars. Only one of my foxes, my twin turbo, was competitive with the new Corvette, and I'm sure the new Z06, or any modded cobra, supra, LSx etc... would've put it on its ass.

a stroked motor stuff into a fox that will wiped the floor with JUST ABOUT anything you will run into on the road will cost you about 20 g's tops.

Engine masters magazine made over 600hp with a 402 c.i. stock LS block with a simple H/C/I combo and the cam was very street friendly with a mild lope and plenty of vaccuum. A similarly street friendly stroked 302W just isn't going to run anywhere near that motor without forced induction. A typical KenneBell '03-'04 terminator makes 620 rwhp or more. You think simply stroking our 302W is going to get us running with those cars? Hell no! It takes a hell of a 408W to run 500 rwhp, and that alone is not cheap to build, not to mention that our cars do not come with the 351W to begin with.

Of course, after you put that motor between your shock towers you had better already put some serious thought into the drivetrain because your stock rear axles and that glass-made T5 are not going to hold on longer than the first spin around the block....well maybe the axles.

Now consider that the average H/C/I LS1 is making 430+rwhp. How will your 331 (without forced induction) compare?

You are an idiot if you think the crap coming out today if that much "faster."

I'm also a moderator of a forum that doesn't permit pointed name-calling. So I'd appreciate it if you treat me and the other users here and our opinions with more respect.

Obviously the chassis and amenities are better, what do you expect after 17+ years of technology. this may be the worst thought through thread i've read in a while.

A good thing about this forum is that there are plenty of other threads to spend your time on.

 

[STANG9350]

I love the Fox body and I think mine is competetive

 

[stykthyn]

I even like to look at a well put together VW.....talk about horsepower...

air cooled beetles are the bomb. drop in a few parts courtesy of Ferdinand Porsche and you would be surprised how fast they can go.

 

[sjhm9102]

POWER to weight ratio i think is much better in a fox which makes them competetive

 

[DmnStr8]

That isn't the point that I made. Yes you can do it for cheaper, but it still isn't cheap to do it. In fact, it's so expensive that even the vast majority of gear-heads can't or won't modify their fox to the level it takes to outrun these cars. Only one of my foxes, my twin turbo, was competitive with the new Corvette, and I'm sure the new Z06, or any modded cobra, supra, LSx etc... would've put it on its ass.

Like I said. I'm not looking for the fastest car. Thats a losing fight for me. And I won't argue that its cheaper to build a foxbody to the state your talking about because I agree with you. Its hard and expensive.

BTW I'm doing a gt40 head combo with an explorer intake. Basic 250rwhp build. I then plan to build up the suspension. I figure with the twisty roads I drive around here it will make a nice budget corner carver. Don't plan to take down vettes but it will be fun to kill older c4s and some s2000s at there won game.

In the end its what you want the car for and what you like. I've seen little turbo civic hatchs that would kill your vette. But would you want them? Some do.