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I'd rather have a roof panel fly off than cracked front & rear control arms like the '05 Ford GT's had on early production runs!310stanger said:
Recall Date: DEC 22, 2004
Model Affected: 2005 FORD GT
Summary: ON CERTAIN PASSENGER VEHICLES, THE UPPER AND LOWER CONTROL ARMS MAY HAVE CASTING IMPERFECTIONS AT THE END OF EACH ARM THAT MAY RESULT IN THE ARM FRACTURING. Consequence: UNDER CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES THE FRACTURE MAY AFFECT VEHICLE HANDLING CHARACTERISTICS, WHICH COULD RESULT IN A CRASH.
Remedy: DEALERS WILL REPLACE THE FRONT AND REAR UPPER AND LOWER CONTROL ARMS AND FASTENERS. BEGINNING DECEMBER 15, 2004, FORD CONTACTED CUSTOMERS BY TELEPHONE TO ADVISE THEM OF THIS CONDITION AND REQUEST THAT THEY NOT OPERATE THEIR VEHICLES UNTIL THIS SERVICE ACTION HAS BEEN PERFORMED. THE RECALL OWNER NOTIFICATION MAILING BEGAN ON JANUARY 14, 2005. OWNERS SHOULD CONTACT FORD AT 1-800-392-3673.
Potential Units Affected: 283
Notes: FORD MOTOR COMPANY 04S26
ammatic said:
i've seen them go for way below the 60,000+ now adays... its all on how bad you want to look... I can find a dealership that may be charging more than msrp for a Z06 and find a Ford dealer that is selling at or even below msrp. Its plain and simple you wanted the Z06 more than the GT500, nothing wrong with that, but i hate it when people bring up the price factor.
Let's be reasonable, it's a TON easier finding a fair deal on a Z06 than a Shelby. A ton. Let's not allow Ford bias to blind us completely...
All of the dealers in my area have been delivering Z06's at MSRP for months now... Not so with the Shelby, not even close.
A friend of mine just stopped by with his black Z06... That's certainly the color to have, it looked sinister...
All of the dealers in my area have been delivering Z06's at MSRP for months now... Not so with the Shelby, not even close.
A friend of mine just stopped by with his black Z06... That's certainly the color to have, it looked sinister...
Well other then the 1st MotorTrend test of the Ford GT the two cars have been within 2 tenths of each other in everyother head to head 1/4 mile runs.
I was simply saying that after driving both they feel pretty much equal in the power department. I would love to line them up and find out, but my friends GT is a garage queen.. he never drives it... just like most of them!!! My Z06 is on the road everyday.
You're right, they are close, but I tend to place more weight on trap-speed than e.t..
I'd agree that a standing-start 1/4-mile run between a GT and a Z06 would be mostly driver-determined.
But judging by all observed magazine tests where the GT has consistantly been 127-132 through the traps (which is flat-out hauling the groceries..), and a couple of dyno comparison's I've seen that both showed the GT's 550 factory rating is conservative at-best.... from a 30-mph roll where the launch is eliminated (which accounts for most of the driver fudge-factor) I'd have my money on the GT all day, every day..
It is impressive how well the Z06 times on road courses, but it's said to be a real handful to obtain those times, whereas the GT is less nasty at the edge of grip.
Miscellaneous ramblings... Both awesome cars, two different price-points and levels of "exotic".
I'd agree that a standing-start 1/4-mile run between a GT and a Z06 would be mostly driver-determined.
But judging by all observed magazine tests where the GT has consistantly been 127-132 through the traps (which is flat-out hauling the groceries..), and a couple of dyno comparison's I've seen that both showed the GT's 550 factory rating is conservative at-best.... from a 30-mph roll where the launch is eliminated (which accounts for most of the driver fudge-factor) I'd have my money on the GT all day, every day..
It is impressive how well the Z06 times on road courses, but it's said to be a real handful to obtain those times, whereas the GT is less nasty at the edge of grip.
Miscellaneous ramblings... Both awesome cars, two different price-points and levels of "exotic".
So you are saying that stock to stock the GT will run right with the Z??? What magazine says that it will run trap of 127 to 132???
The best i seen the GT run was 12.2 stock
and the best i seen the Z run stock was 10.85 trap at 129.5>>>on DR. and Ranger did that.
Allow me to quote myself from earlier in this thread...
As stated previously, drag racing these two cars comes down more to the drivers ability to get a good launch. On a road course with the same driver behind the wheel these two cars are very, very close.
U.M.
As stated previously, drag racing these two cars comes down more to the drivers ability to get a good launch. On a road course with the same driver behind the wheel these two cars are very, very close.
U.M.
Any magazine will give you 127-132 mph, any magazine... Just go to the one you've got with the 12.2 in it, and you'll see a 127 or-more mph trap speed associated with it... And why are you even COMPARING Ranger's run on DR's, what's the point in apples/oranges comparisons?? Stock vs. stock on street tires, period. Once you start messing with things, switching to a drag tire, it's a who-cares discussion.
Yes, on a road course, they are amazingly close. My only point was that from what I've read, the Z06 is capable of running close, but far tougher to drive at that level. You could give a GT one heck of a run, but one slip-up and it could bite back hard.
To say that the Z06 is faster than the GT just because Joe Blow ran a blah-blah with race tires and who-knows-what-else isn't being divulged would be ingenuous. To say that it's close enough to save $80 flippin grand is eminently VALID.
Ok I think I misunderstand I'm talking about the Mustang GT 500 not the GT 40...I have not seen a Stock mustang GT500 run any trap times even near 127 >>> stock
Yes, I was talking GT40, which is actually correctly the "GT", as the rights to the GT40 name belong to some British guy, and when he tried to extort a ridiculous amount of money to allow Ford to use it again, they simply went with "GT" (which was what the original cars were originally known as before the 40 was added afterthefact) and told the British guy to kiss their collective arses.
Yeah, you couldn't run that kind of mph in a GT500 unless you gutted the thing and ran it downhill..... or mod it considerably....
Yeah, you couldn't run that kind of mph in a GT500 unless you gutted the thing and ran it downhill..... or mod it considerably....
Thanks for letting me know how that works with the GT I just learned something new. never to old to learn...
