Im sorry for this turbo vs. sc
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Just a 306
the blocked out part is s b f tech . com
Take the spaces away too, lol.
Mr. Rustypwnz
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Sportin' a turbo 5.0 in Canadistan
JGT
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I never said it couldn't be done, we have a couple in our forum who are in the 9s on 408s
People just talk a lot of crap on the net so i don't believe anything until i see it, and then i still question it because hey, anyone can grab a video and say it's them ya know?
Oh and just so we're on the same page...i too would prefer to have my power all motor, but i don't think it's fair to say that turbo costs 15k to be fast or that they're all dyno queens. Sure, you can make retarded numbers with a turbo and the rest of the car might not give you the ET that you would expect with that kind of power....but you have to consider that turbo is a science and a lot of people expect the simplicity of a supercharger setup but it's just not that easy with a turbo. Something simple like the wrong converter or gears can ruin the whole setup.
Heck man if you ask me, it doesn't get any better than high RPM 302 based strokers
I agree with you on everything you just said there. It's just, I feel a turbo car is a dyno queen because it's so hard to plant that power to the ground. It's either you have a small a/r and make insanse amounts of unusable power at like 2,800rpms or you make insane amounts of power at 4,000rpms and it hits like a shot of nitrous and again its unusable. I just see way too many turbo cars with way too much hp run way too slow of times and it pushed me away. It's nothing to do with their suspension...well it is but, it's just how a turbo makes power, the power curve is just too broad. If Ford didn't make our factory blocks so cheap and flimsy I would have kept my turbo. Because they did I knew I was on borrowed time. I couldn't afford an aftermarket block like a dart or world and at that point I could have built something better, so I did. Theres no replacement for displacement and if one day I wanna go turbo I can swap out my high comp pistons for some low comps and have a turboed 408.
irvgotti
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well my opinion..id pick SC for a couple of reasons.
1. i would really hate it if im all hyped up and worked up a sweat for the turbo to lag..thats a moment killer.
2. it takes really good tuning and a whole lot of time to keep it from lagging especially if u have a big turbo.
3. if its a daily driver and u like the instantaneous power that will pounce with twitch of the foot..something turbo cant do... also if you do alot of stop and go driving like if you live in the city and drive hard the turbo will lag and you wont like it at all. cause turbo needs rpm to work good and superchargers don't. and if you do alot of street racing the street distances are harldy ever a quarter mile so with less runway the supercharger would be hells faster..
4.cost....
conclusion ..i think the turbo has to much headaces..i do alot of stop and go in this city and i dont blow threw stop signs but i dont completely stop all the time lol. I love to do that low rpm cannon shoot after i creep from a stop sign looking for cop's lol or do a sharp turn where it drops RPM's and i wanna exit hard.. it just aint cool to me have to spool up first to get the power that i want..i want it there as i need it...also in the autocross it shows...
thats my opinion
1. i would really hate it if im all hyped up and worked up a sweat for the turbo to lag..thats a moment killer.
2. it takes really good tuning and a whole lot of time to keep it from lagging especially if u have a big turbo.
3. if its a daily driver and u like the instantaneous power that will pounce with twitch of the foot..something turbo cant do... also if you do alot of stop and go driving like if you live in the city and drive hard the turbo will lag and you wont like it at all. cause turbo needs rpm to work good and superchargers don't. and if you do alot of street racing the street distances are harldy ever a quarter mile so with less runway the supercharger would be hells faster..
4.cost....
conclusion ..i think the turbo has to much headaces..i do alot of stop and go in this city and i dont blow threw stop signs but i dont completely stop all the time lol. I love to do that low rpm cannon shoot after i creep from a stop sign looking for cop's lol or do a sharp turn where it drops RPM's and i wanna exit hard.. it just aint cool to me have to spool up first to get the power that i want..i want it there as i need it...also in the autocross it shows...
thats my opinion
I am NOT backing up turbos here just making things clear. This information is horrible and needed cleaning up, so I did so
irvgotti
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well i have no intence knowledge of turbo's im not turbo expert i just know bits and pieces ..but i knowfor sure is ive been in upgraded turbo cars...wrx's, 240's, rx7...and i saw alot of problems and it hesitates in stop and go driving and the've told me how much it cost i was alittle taken back...and they told me there horror stories on getting to work correctly...
irvgotti
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well there you have it
well i think u see everyones opinions here lol....well i can be wrong about turbos i haven't looked into them for years.....id rather the more torque for street...but you can see for yourself at real world conditions how they behave...turbo lag is real ive never heard of a turbo car never lagging it will at some point & even new cars with turbos has the problem with flat torque its in the magazines...but turbos will kick ass on a open road like highway flying i see what those toyota supras do....look at what they did with turbo'd ford gt...crazy fast top end cool if u.s. had its own autobahn..
maybe 1 day my dream will come true...
but u know my opinion and im sticking to it lol...SC all the way for it security and torque....Can u imagine getting in a chase like mcqueen did in the bullit movie with a turbo....theres no way i can go with a car with flat torque and the possibility of a heart breaking lagg...
both turbo and superchargers rock tho....ill take any one of them in a heartbeat
Twin turbo is great have u considered that a small turbo for low end and bigger 1 for top end...just a thought
well i think u see everyones opinions here lol....well i can be wrong about turbos i haven't looked into them for years.....id rather the more torque for street...but you can see for yourself at real world conditions how they behave...turbo lag is real ive never heard of a turbo car never lagging it will at some point & even new cars with turbos has the problem with flat torque its in the magazines...but turbos will kick ass on a open road like highway flying i see what those toyota supras do....look at what they did with turbo'd ford gt...crazy fast top end cool if u.s. had its own autobahn..
maybe 1 day my dream will come true...
but u know my opinion and im sticking to it lol...SC all the way for it security and torque....Can u imagine getting in a chase like mcqueen did in the bullit movie with a turbo....theres no way i can go with a car with flat torque and the possibility of a heart breaking lagg...
both turbo and superchargers rock tho....ill take any one of them in a heartbeat
Twin turbo is great have u considered that a small turbo for low end and bigger 1 for top end...just a thought
Aliate X
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This is why these kinds of threads suck. There's no clear answer here. Each person will concentrate on those properties of power adder that they're sensitive to then argue it into the ground.
Choose adder properties that are the most important to you and look at each adder to see which fills your desire for a power adder best. Ask SPECIFIC questions about each power adder if you need.
Asking open ended questions such as "What are the differences in these", is n't going to tell you much.
The other problem with this kind of thread is the interpretation of the post writer and post reader. Closed questions are the key if you're looking to get help in making a decision.
Example: Turbo lag, which adders have it and which don't?
Centri blowers - lag
Turbos - lag, but less with a proper tune and properly sized.
Eaton/Roots - zero lag
Twin Screw - zero lag
Something along those lines.
These threads make me tired. LOL
Choose adder properties that are the most important to you and look at each adder to see which fills your desire for a power adder best. Ask SPECIFIC questions about each power adder if you need.
Asking open ended questions such as "What are the differences in these", is n't going to tell you much.
The other problem with this kind of thread is the interpretation of the post writer and post reader. Closed questions are the key if you're looking to get help in making a decision.
Example: Turbo lag, which adders have it and which don't?
Centri blowers - lag
Turbos - lag, but less with a proper tune and properly sized.
Eaton/Roots - zero lag
Twin Screw - zero lag
Something along those lines.
These threads make me tired. LOL
Aliate X
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lol what are you talking about, since when to centris have lag?
I centri will jump to say 10psi when you punch it and then climb to 15psi relevant to the RPM increase.
I centri will jump to say 10psi when you punch it and then climb to 15psi relevant to the RPM increase.
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