hmm.. I wasnt aware that I "cheaped out". As a matter of fact, I didnt. Just because their "cheap" does not mean they're not quaility pieces (go ahead, disagree). But when you have a header that fits the way MAC's do, and has the longevitiy of any other ceramic header, why spend more? look at my mods, do I look like somebody who's cheap? I'm not at all, I always get what I think is the best in price to actual "difference the mod makes from company to company" (if that makes any sense at all) comparison. and yea, sound clip, i can do that monday, im in canada for the weekend