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A canned tune is one that comes packaged with a specific product, or is generic to any vehicle with no existing modifications that could cause conflicts or compatibility issues.
If you have existing modifications and/or would like a specific change to the shift points, RPM limit, A/Fs, etc. you need a custom tune. A custom tune is one that is dialed/developed to your specific vehicle using your performance preferences and modifications.
So - Canned is Canned. It is what is, and it is no more. Custom is Custom as it is customized to your individual vehicle.
If you have existing modifications and/or would like a specific change to the shift points, RPM limit, A/Fs, etc. you need a custom tune. A custom tune is one that is dialed/developed to your specific vehicle using your performance preferences and modifications.
So - Canned is Canned. It is what is, and it is no more. Custom is Custom as it is customized to your individual vehicle.
kooldawg6
mine works really well and can take a fair amount
A tuner form either www.Brenspeed.com or www.bamachips.com will be your best bet! It will save you money in the long run to get a tuner and CAI package. Both of the places mentioned above will provide you custom tunes for your car and mods. You have quite a bit of adjustability with the tuners...OMG YES will it eliminate throttle lag!!!!!
http://www.sctflash.com/product_xc2.php
http://www.diablosport.com/index.php?module=htmlpages&func=display&pid=51
http://www.sctflash.com/product_xc2.php
http://www.diablosport.com/index.php?module=htmlpages&func=display&pid=51
anthony05gt
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A canned tune is also considered ''generic'' due to the fact that you may live at a different elevation than the next guy who has the same tune somewhere across the world. Sometimes they will need adjusting for that and other reasons. A custom tune is usually performed on a dynamometer by a tech that understands the fuel tables and various parameters that require fine tuning for optimum performance. That experienced tech can squeeze the most power and performance out of what you have. If you just want a nice bump in power, lose the throttle lag and maybe get a little better fuel mileage a canned tune should suit you just fine. On the other hand, if you add a turbo or blower system to the car it would be a major advantage for a custom dyno tune over the canned tunes.
kooldawg6
mine works really well and can take a fair amount
red05bullitgt
Member
Different elevations has absolutely nothing to do with how a custom, canned or stock tune responds...Atmospheric conditions are adjusted and compensated through the MAF meter, exclusively..Otherwise you would also have to get a different stock tune, every time you're car enters into a different elevation, which wouldn't make any logical sense at all..It's just like Doug from Bamachip's mentioned in a past thread, this isn't the old speed density days of the early Fox Mustangs..
red05bullitgt
Member
I can tell you from personal experience, that a canned tuner DOES NOT get rid of that nasty drive by wire throttle lag... In fact, when I first started modifying my Stang, I began with the preloaded 9415 X-CAL II programmer, which consisted of SCT's base 87,89 and 93 octane tunes, for use with either bone stock or lightly modified applications and could also be used for multiple vehicles as well...However after just 3 months of use ? I noticed the throttle lag was still hanging in between shifts and that was when I finally decided to seek Doug's advice, concerning his custom mail order tunes..Although he told me up front, that he didn't believe his tunes could provide much more HP, than my previous SCT base files ? he did assure me that his custom tunes would get rid of the throttle lag, and provide much better all around throttle response along with writing the tunes, exclusively for my Stang's PCM calibration and mods..That being said, ever since I've been using my Bamachip tunes ? the difference has been like night and day, in which the throttle lag has practically been eliminated..In addition, I just recently had Doug's 93 race tune, dyno checked by Powerhouse Automotive, in which the Air/Fuel ratio was spot on between 12.9-13.0 at WOT and didn't require any additional tuning nor tweaking at all..Therefore the bottom line is this ! there's a very huge difference between both Bamachip's and Brenspeed's custom mail order tunes, than the SCT base tune files, that come preloaded in their canned 9415 programmers.. 
go to adam at st motorsports in san bernardino, hes 1 of the best in so cal. hes even having a dyno day this sat. hes on the best board but i cant tell you which 1 cause thats part of being a member. silly? but true. the members are trying to keep it more serious and professional.
st motorsports
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st motorsports
380 i st
san bernardino
909 388 2536
SlideWRX
Member
My Brenspeed tune got rid of about half of the throttle delay. It still takes a little extra to blip the throttle when rev matching. Most of the time I'll blip the throttle & nothing happens. Still much better than stock.
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iskwezm
10 Year Member
So I take you never called my buddy Greg at Racers Edge???? You wont regret it or get better customer service in the area. You could probably ask him for a ride in his 05' V6 with a 5.4 Shelby swap and wet yourself. 
anthony05gt
Active Member
I know my car doesn't run nearly as well in higher altitudes. The lack of air molecules will go beyond the maf's capabilities at times.The maf is only good for fine adjustments which do indeed work very well overall, I'll give you that. Before my car was blown I had a canned tune with my Steeda CAI which was specific to the CAI, gears, etc. The engine shut down 12 times in one 300 mile trip do to running lean in higher elevations. Back home where the elevation is anywhere from sea level to 600 ft above the car only shut down 2 times in 500 miles of driving. After having the a/f ratio adjusted a bit it never shut off again. Stock is different than a modified engine for sure. The fact that a canned tune may be leaning one way or another in the lean/rich department causes the maf's ability to adjust to be limited at times. Put that in your bong and smoke it.
red05bullitgt
Member
Well in that case, you had better relay your last quote, to Doug from bamachip's as well being that he's the source, I obtained my info. from in the first place..if I'm able to locate his post through the archives ? I'll re-post it in this thread..
anthony05gt
Active Member
I don't deny the truth behind Doug's statements. I'm just showing through my own experience that there are exceptions to the rule. What you are saying is true is most every case. My experience is just one where having a canned tune customized was essential and was actually caused by the fact that the canned tune was leaning too far one way on the a/f ratio. The change in elevation during my trip aggrevated the problem to the point where it was beyond the maf's ability to correct it.
iskwezm
10 Year Member
I dont see how a mail order tune can be "perfect" for every car. i would syill rather go local to where I live
anthony05gt
Active Member
That's for sure. Someone that knows what they are doing can really squeeze it all out of your car that no canned tune can do unless for some coincidental reason everything falls into place. That would be rare.
red05bullitgt
Member
Hey Anthony, now that you mention it.. before I converted my canned 9415 X-CAL II into the standard 9400 X-CAL II custom tuner ? we had to add 6% more fuel, after the dyno testing confirmed my Air/Fuel was @ 13.5 lean during WOT..However, after upgrading to Doug's 93 race tune ? my Air/Fuel was spot on between 12.8-13.0 @ WOT...I guess it just goes to show, that even Doug's mail order custom tunes, are far superior over SCT's canned base tunes, but on the other hand ? Doug will also be the very first, to recommend getting the Air/Fuel checked, for all his tune files as well..What I still don't understand though, is why the stock tune files don't seem to have Air/Fuel issues, whenever there's either an atmospheric or altitude change ? you would think that despite the differences in both timing and air/fuel curves between the stock and canned tunes ? the basic principles would still remain the same...
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