Help my starter wont shut off!!!

[bdazzgt]

today my car wont start so i go and put a new silenoid on my car. It just clicks still i check the voltage at the starter post and i am getting over 14v. I go and get a new starter and put it on and as soon as i connect the battery cable the car starts. Good thing it was in neutral, and no one was hurt. I had to jerk off the battery cable to get it to stop. What could cause this i changed silenoids twice. Could the ignition switch cause this? I got it to start and drove it home with no problems but as soon as i got home i tried to start the car and it stayed on and had to rip the cable off!! i need help ASAP thanks guys-James

 

[HISSIN50]

I had to jerk off the battery cable to get it to stop.

James, lewd and lascivious acts involving battery cables should merit a CT.

Is there a chance you have the starter cable accidentally connected to the battery lug. It sounds like it.

If this only happens with the key on: disconnect the starter cable from the solenoid. Now with the key on, see if the small wire on top of the solenoid shows 12 volts (without you trying to start the car).

Good luck.

 

[StarFox07]

James, lewd and lascivious acts involving battery cables should merit a CT.

I would say the solenoid, but if thats been replaced

 

[bdazzgt]

no the battery cable let me finish.......
Anyways no i looked very very carefully and none of the wires shorted across. The only thing i have left to replace is the ignition switch, everything else is new. I dont have access to a voltmeter right now i will check it soon, but could it be the ignition switch? i hope so because if not then i have to start chasing wires......

 

[HISSIN50]

James, the only way I can see the ignition switch doing it is if you have the clutch safety switch bypassed. Otherwise, even if you apply 12 volts to the starter wire at the ignition switch (like it shorted out), unless the clutch is pressed to the floor, the starter will not crank (as you know happens if you try to start it without pushing the clutch pedal in).

If you do the test I outlined above, you will see if the S-terminal wire is getting 12 volts when it should not be. If it isnt, you know that is not the issue.

Good luck.

 

[timeless2]

James, lewd and lascivious acts involving battery cables should merit a CT.

Agreed. Done.

Please proceed with this technical discussion.

 

[hllon4whls]

James, the only way I can see the ignition switch doing it is if you have the clutch safety switch bypassed. Otherwise, even if you apply 12 volts to the starter wire at the ignition switch (like it shorted out), unless the clutch is pressed to the floor, the starter will not crank (as you know happens if you try to start it without pushing the clutch pedal in).

If you do the test I outlined above, you will see if the S-terminal wire is getting 12 volts when it should not be. If it isnt, you know that is not the issue.

Good luck.

If he doesnt have a voltmeter, just pull the small wire off the solenoid and see if the starter still engages with the little wire off.

I think realistically as Hisson said you may have the bat and starter lead on the same side of the solenoid. Shoot us a picture of the solenoid.

 

[Deleted member 87397]

Did you hook up your solenoid backwards? A lot of parts store replacements look just like the stocker, but are backwards. It could have stuck when you replaced it and were cranking over the car to try and start it before you replaced the starter. as soon as you changed the starter and hooked up the battery it started right up?

 

[Mike92GT]

I had the same problem a while back. I changed the solenoid first, but it didn't help. Ended up being the starter itself.

 

[bdazzgt]

The car was originally an automatic, when they switched it they didnt hook up the NSS i would like it to be but i never got around to hooking it up. I took off the new silenoid and put the old one back on and it stayed on once, after i pulled the battery cable and hooked it back up it hasnt done it since. I double and triple checked all of the wiring and it is correct, i even looked off my dads mint 88 and it is all the same. I didnt have this problem until the starter froze up....any ideas?

 

[93tealcobra]

Simple test. Remove starter after disconnecting the battery (disclaimer).

Apply jumper cables to a runing car on one side, on the other clip the black to the case and the red terminal. Find something to jump the small threaded thingy to the large threaded thingy and see if it starts turning. Make sure you have your foot or something on the starter.

 

[bdazzgt]

The starter is brand new and it starts fine it just doesnt stop when you let off the key....

 

[jrichker]

If he doesnt have a voltmeter, just pull the small wire off the solenoid and see if the starter still engages with the little wire off.

I think realistically as Hisson said you may have the bat and starter lead on the same side of the solenoid. Shoot us a picture of the solenoid.

Best advice you have gotten so far. Follow his instructions.

 

[drizzle]

is it the 92 up mini starter? if so I mine did that, a buddies car did that. was the starter at fault. my buddy got a new from advance and it did it the first time we put it on the car. new motorcraft and problem solved. what it is, is the selenoid on the starter sticks causing the starter to stay engaged.

 

[bdazzgt]

i am glad i finally got new ct, i dont have the car with me because i didnt have a chance to fix this today. Anyways the first starter did the same thing it stayed on until it burn out, which took all of 25-30 seconds it was an old one anyways. I replaced the silenoid and the starter and it cranked but it stayed on. I took off the new silenoid and put my old one back on. I started it and it didnt have any problems. I go to move it and it sticks again so i have to take off the battery cable again. it doesnt do it all the time just every once in a while. I think the ignition switch is shorted out. I am going to go ahead and change it because i am tired of messing with it.