A bit stumped....

1fast89

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For some reason I have no voltage on my fuel pump wire... I don't have a wire schematic for this, but I did trace it up to under the dash (pink/black wire). I know you should be able to turn the key and see voltage for a few seconds (priming the pump). I wasn't sure if there is a relay or anything that may have gone bad... I checked the fuse panel and there aren't any fuses for it. :shrug: Any help is much appreciated!!
 
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Fuel Pump Troubleshooting for 86-90 Mustangs

Clue – listen for the fuel pump to prime when you first turn the ignition switch on.
It should run for 5-20 seconds and shut off. To trick the fuel pump into running,
find the ECC test connector and jump the connector in the lower RH corner to
ground.
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If the fuse links are OK, you will have power to the pump. Check fuel pressure –
remove the cap from the Schrader valve behind the alternator and depress the
core. Fuel should squirt out, catch it in a rag. A tire pressure gauge can also be
used if you have one - look for 37-40 PSI. Beware of fire hazard when you do this.

No fuel pressure, possible failed items in order of their probability:
A.) Tripped inertia switch – press reset button on the inertia switch. The hatch
cars hide it under the plastic trim covering the driver's side taillight. Use the
voltmeter or test light to make sure you have power to both sides of the switch

B.) Fuel pump power relay – located under the driver’s seat in most stangs built
before 92. On 92 and later model cars it is located below the Mass Air Flow meter.
C.) Clogged fuel filter
D.) Failed fuel pump
E.) Blown fuse link in wiring harness.
F.) Fuel pressure regulator failed. Remove vacuum line from regulator and inspect
for fuel escaping while pump is running.

The electrical circuit for the fuel pump has two paths, a control path and a power
path.

The control path consists of the inertia switch, the computer, and the fuel pump
relay coil. It turns the fuel pump relay on or off under computer control. The
switched power (red wire) from the ECC relay goes to the inertia switch
(red/black wire) then from the inertia switch to the relay coil and then from the
relay coil to the computer (tan/ Lt green wire). The computer provides the ground
path to complete the circuit. This ground causes the relay coil to energize and
close the contacts for the power path. Keep in mind that you can have voltage
to all the right places, but the computer must provide a ground. If there is no
ground, the relay will not close the power contacts.

The power path picks up from a fuse link near the starter relay. Fuse links are like
fuses, except they are pieces of wire and are made right into the wiring harness.
The feed wire from the fuse link (orange/ light blue wire) goes to the fuel pump
relay contacts. When the contacts close because the relay energizes, the power
flows through the contacts to the fuel pump (light pink/black wire). The fuel pump
has a black wire that supplies the ground to complete the circuit.

Remember that the computer does not source any power to actuators, relays
or injectors, but provides the ground necessary to complete the circuit. That
means one side of the circuit will always be hot, and the other side will go to
ground or below 1 volt as the computer switches on that circuit.


See the following website for some help from Tmoss (diagram designer) &
Stang&2Birds (website host)

http://www.veryuseful.com/mustang/tech/engine/images/IgnitionSwitchWiring.gif

http://www.veryuseful.com/mustang/tech/engine/images/fuel-alt-links-ign-ac.gif

http://www.veryuseful.com/mustang/tech/engine/images/88-91eecPinout.gif

Diagram courtesy of Tmoss & Stang&2birds

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Now that you have the theory of how it works, it’s time to go digging.

Look for 12 volts at the Orange/Lt. Blue wire (power source for fuel pump relay).
No voltage or low voltage, bad fuse link, bad wiring, bad ignition switch or ignition
switch wiring or connections. There is a mystery connector somewhere under the
driver’s side kick panel, between the fuel pump relay and the fuse link.

Turn on the key and jumper the fuel pump test connector to ground as previously
described. Look for 12 volts at the Light Pink/Black wire (relay controlled power
for the fuel pump). No voltage there means that the relay has failed, or there is a
broken wire in the relay control circuit.

Check the Red/black wire, it should have 12 volts. No 12 volts there, either the
inertia switch is open or has no power to it. Check both sides of the inertia
switch: there should be power on the Red wire and Red/Black wire. Power on the
Red wire and not on the Red/Black wire means the inertia switch is open.

Pump wiring: Anytime the ignition switch is in the Run position and the test
point is jumpered to ground, there should be at least 12 volts present on the
black/pink wire. With power off, check the pump ground: you should see less
than 1 ohm between the black wire and chassis ground.

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The Tan/Lt Green wire provides a ground path for the relay power. With the test
connector jumpered to ground, there should be less than .75 volts. Use a test
lamp with one side connected to battery power and the other side to the
Tan/Lt Green wire. The test light should glow brightly. No glow and you have a
broken wire or bad connection between the test connector and the relay. To test
the wiring from the computer, remove the passenger side kick panel and
disconnect the computer connector. It has a 10 MM bolt that holds it in place.
With the test lamp connected to power, jumper pin 22 to ground and the test
lamp should glow. No glow and the wiring between the computer and the fuel
pump relay is bad.

Computer: If you got this far and everything else checked out good, the computer is suspect.
Remove the test jumper from the ECC test connector located under the hood.
Probe computer pin 22 with a safety pin and ground it to chassis. Make sure the computer
and everything else is connected. Turn the ignition switch to the Run position and observe
the fuel pressure. The pump should run at full pressure.
If it doesn't, the wiring between pin 22 on the computer and the fuel pump relay is bad.
If it does run at full pressure, the computer may have failed.

Keep in mind that the computer only runs the fuel pump for about 2-3 seconds when you turn
the key to the Run position. This can sometimes fool you into thinking the computer has died.
Connect one lead of the test light to power and the other lead to computer pin 22 with a safety pin.
With the ignition switch Off, jumper the computer into self test mode like you are going to dump
the codes. Turn the ignition switch to the Run position. The light will flicker when the computer
does the self test routine. A flickering light is a good computer. No flickering light is a bad computer.
Remove the test jumper from the ECC test connector located under the hood.

If all of the checks have worked OK to this point, then the computer is bad. The
computers are very reliable and not prone to failure unless there has been
significant electrical trauma to the car. Things like lightning strikes and putting
the battery in backwards or connecting jumper cables backwards are about the
only thing that kills the computer.

Fuel pump runs continuously: The tan/green wire has shorted to ground or the relay contacts are sticking.
Disconnect the computer and use an ohmmeter to check out the resistance between the tan/green
wire and ground. You should see more than 10 K Ohms (10,000 ohms) or an infinite open
circuit. Be sure that the test connector isn’t jumpered to ground. If the resistance check is good,
replace the relay.
 
Thanks for the info!

What year is your car. Some have the fuel pump relay under the driver seat and some are on the pass. side fender under the MAF.
I have an '89 GT.....I checked the wiring along the door sill up to the dash, and no voltage....Now that I have an idea as to where the fuel pump relay is located, I'll check that! Thanks!
 
Okay...a little update.. I have no switched 12v power. I have checked everything (per the schematic), and no 12v where it should be. I do have 12v on the orange/lt.blue wire going to the fuel pump relay. Now I'm trying to trace out and see where the switched 12v originates and go from there. I am getting a partial ground (45 ohm) on the pink /blk wire before it gets to the fuel pump relay (even with relay out of harness). I hope my computer isn't trashed...:mad: I did see bare wire on the WAC relay...one being the power and another being the one going to the a/c clutch, which is a ground. Although, when checking that ground..I didn't see a ground with my meter...:shrug:
 
Do you have power comeing from the inertia switch?

The diagram show the ground should be on the PK/BK wire.

There should be two hot wires going in to the fuel pump relay and one ground and one neutral.

I believe the Orange/ lt blue and PK/BK should be out with the key on. I will go out and check my car first thing in the morning.
 
Do you have power comeing from the inertia switch?

The diagram show the ground should be on the PK/BK wire.

There should be two hot wires going in to the fuel pump relay and one ground and one neutral.

I believe the Orange/ lt blue and PK/BK should be out with the key on. I will go out and check my car first thing in the morning.
No, I don't have any power a the inertia switch.... And I checked most of the other places that I should have it as well (MAF, injectors, fuel pump relay, WAC relay, etc). I just don't see a source per the schematic that would cause this...but I know there has to be!
 
No, I don't have any power a the inertia switch.... And I checked most of the other places that I should have it as well (MAF, injectors, fuel pump relay, WAC relay, etc). I just don't see a source per the schematic that would cause this...but I know there has to be!

check all of your fuseable link at the started senoid.
 
No, I don't have any power a the inertia switch.... And I checked most of the other places that I should have it as well (MAF, injectors, fuel pump relay, WAC relay, etc). I just don't see a source per the schematic that would cause this...but I know there has to be!

Look at the diagram JRichker posted again (middle top and top right).

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Look at one of the others he provided a link to as well (bottom right corner):

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Good luck.
 

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Look at the diagram JRichker posted again (middle top and top right).

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Look at one of the others he provided a link to as well (bottom right corner):

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Good luck.
Yeah, I guess I was pretty tired last night.... What I was looking for is found in the top schematic (what comes off of the solenoid). The bottom one I had already gone through, but it's the info showing the solenoid that was needed. Thanks guys...I'll let you know what I find when I get off from work today.
 

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I have POWA!!!!!! Okay, just a little advice....don't mistake a dark blue power wire for a ground!! I relocated my wires from inside the engine bay to inside the fender about a year ago (yes, this has been one of those projects that you work on for a few weeks and then it sits, work on it a bit and it sit, etc.). Well, apparently when I screwed down the grounds, I thought this was a ground. The 20 gauge dark blue with years of grime on it definitely looked black....then I saw the fuse link! Anyway, thanks a lot guys for the schematics (I've printed them!) and all of the help!! It's so nice to turn the key and hear my fuel pumps prime!!:nice: