My new employee at the shop is a photographer and he took the first un-crappy photo of the Mach
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That really does look great. Nice job with the paint scheme. I didn't even notice the shaved door handles the first time, I had to go back and look. I have one question: Did your Mach come from the factory in Tangerine?
Yep. Not to fond of Tangerine. I wanted to paint it a Ford color, but didn't really like anything on the II color pallet. It is Ford Grabber Blue.
(late 60's early 70's Color)
(late 60's early 70's Color)
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I've actually always wanted an orange car. So, this fall when I repaint my King Cobra, it will be going from black to orange. I'm leaning toward the 69/70 color Calypso Coral, which is a slightly redder orange than the '78 Tangerine.
Another question for you: I notice that you eliminated the "targa band" behind the t-tops. I'm considering doing that myself. Aside from the obvious gain in visibility, any thoughts on that change? Did you just swap out the interior pieces from a non t-top car?
Thanks!
Another question for you: I notice that you eliminated the "targa band" behind the t-tops. I'm considering doing that myself. Aside from the obvious gain in visibility, any thoughts on that change? Did you just swap out the interior pieces from a non t-top car?
Thanks!
Dano78
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If I remember my T-Top CBII car, yes, it used std. interior pieces. Here's a pic I have from it. you should be able to see the inside and outside pieces.
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m121/Dano14093/Mustang II/78CBII17Sept01g.jpg
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m121/Dano14093/Mustang II/78CBII17Sept01g.jpg
78StangII2+2
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Great shot of the Mach 1 Jason!!
With respect to Lance's question about the Targo band replacement, I would have a comment. I gave this serious consideration after painting as I really liked the clean look without the Targa band.
My mind got made up very quickly for me when I re-installed the roof trim for the t-top. When I riveted the trim back in, the roof panel seemed to distort or pull from the riveting process leaving it not as smooth as when I finished painting. I ended up using the Targe band to hide the distortion. Therefore if I was leaning toward removing the Targe band, I would advise using small stainless screws to put the t-top trim back on rather than the rivets.
/paul
1977 MII Mach 1 302
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2219901/4
With respect to Lance's question about the Targo band replacement, I would have a comment. I gave this serious consideration after painting as I really liked the clean look without the Targa band.
My mind got made up very quickly for me when I re-installed the roof trim for the t-top. When I riveted the trim back in, the roof panel seemed to distort or pull from the riveting process leaving it not as smooth as when I finished painting. I ended up using the Targe band to hide the distortion. Therefore if I was leaning toward removing the Targe band, I would advise using small stainless screws to put the t-top trim back on rather than the rivets.
/paul
1977 MII Mach 1 302
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2219901/4
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Another question for you: I notice that you eliminated the "targa band" behind the t-tops. I'm considering doing that myself. Aside from the obvious gain in visibility, any thoughts on that change?
Did you just swap out the interior pieces from a non t-top car? Nope, my car has no interior, but you definitely could
[/QUOTE] (my car has a 6 point cage and two seats, little else (so-far)
Contrary to popular belief the targa band has no function. I read in one of the Mustang books that it held the T-tops in. LOL My car was from Arizona and everything that was not metal was dust! The targa band, interior and all the weather striping came out/off is pieces. My thoughts are 70's cars have too much trim, so I tried to eliminate as much of it as possible. I shaved the door handles, emblems, antenna, trunk lock and replaced the bumpers with trim-less fiberglass ones to clean it up a little, while trying not to change the look/character of the II. I don't really mind the look of the Targa Band, I like II's with or with out it.
To take the targa band off you need these parts from a non-T-top Hatch back:
-out side quarter window trim (cut to fit). {ASC Chopped it all up funny}
-The 1" thick piece of aluminum trim that goes vertical between the door window and the quarter window
-inside rear upper plastic interior panels
Aside from that the car would need to be painted because the Targa band is press fit into many holes across the roof. As with the Ghia Ford did not spend alot of time on bodywork where it would not be seen (under the band on the T-roof / Under the vinyl roof on the Ghia). The trim around the T-tops will have holes in it too, I filled (the trim) holes with JB weld sanded it smooth and painted them. It has held up really well, and in flat black, you can not see that there were ever any holes. Unlike the Ghia the quater windows are the same on the T-top and Regular hatchback. ASC just put high tech adhesive bonding strips on the glass (black tape). Not sure that the visability is any better, you can still loose the space shuttle in the blind spot. I still employ the goose, and merge technique. And oh ya don't be surprised to find a roof that looks like it was cut with an axe and a whole lot of pop rivits. When I had my first T-top I assumed that some red-neck T-topped it in his back shed, but they all look that way. 
Another question for you: I notice that you eliminated the "targa band" behind the t-tops. I'm considering doing that myself. Aside from the obvious gain in visibility, any thoughts on that change?
Did you just swap out the interior pieces from a non t-top car? Nope, my car has no interior, but you definitely could
[/QUOTE] (my car has a 6 point cage and two seats, little else (so-far)
Contrary to popular belief the targa band has no function. I read in one of the Mustang books that it held the T-tops in. LOL My car was from Arizona and everything that was not metal was dust! The targa band, interior and all the weather striping came out/off is pieces. My thoughts are 70's cars have too much trim, so I tried to eliminate as much of it as possible. I shaved the door handles, emblems, antenna, trunk lock and replaced the bumpers with trim-less fiberglass ones to clean it up a little, while trying not to change the look/character of the II. I don't really mind the look of the Targa Band, I like II's with or with out it.
To take the targa band off you need these parts from a non-T-top Hatch back:
-out side quarter window trim (cut to fit). {ASC Chopped it all up funny}
-The 1" thick piece of aluminum trim that goes vertical between the door window and the quarter window
-inside rear upper plastic interior panels
Aside from that the car would need to be painted because the Targa band is press fit into many holes across the roof. As with the Ghia Ford did not spend alot of time on bodywork where it would not be seen (under the band on the T-roof / Under the vinyl roof on the Ghia). The trim around the T-tops will have holes in it too, I filled (the trim) holes with JB weld sanded it smooth and painted them. It has held up really well, and in flat black, you can not see that there were ever any holes. Unlike the Ghia the quater windows are the same on the T-top and Regular hatchback. ASC just put high tech adhesive bonding strips on the glass (black tape). Not sure that the visability is any better, you can still loose the space shuttle in the blind spot. I still employ the goose, and merge technique.
And oh ya don't be surprised to find a roof that looks like it was cut with an axe and a whole lot of pop rivits. When I had my first T-top I assumed that some red-neck T-topped it in his back shed, but they all look that way. 
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Nice photo of an outstanding car. I like the clean lines, you should have your employee take more photo's
3-0-II
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It's true, t-tops were pretty much hacked into any car. Here's something I've seen, tell me if you noticed the same:
My tops have body filler between them, and a little bit in front. There is a guy who lived (may still) in Spokane, WA, who had a King Cobra with some ridiculously low mileage, like 215. Yes, two hundred and change. It was a sight to behold. His dad owned a dealership, and he ordered it new and stored it. He brought it out once every so often and took it to a show. I took several photos of it. The one thing about the car that upset him was the paint between the t-tops was flaking up, exposing.... body filler. He never had it fixed, as then the car would not be original anymore, so he left it as is. But, this seems to indicate that the practice was common.
I read somewhere that the targa band was installed on the II to minimize body work after the cuts were made. I'm guessing that all of this means that there was some distortion to the roof sheet metal after the cuts were made, as Paul experienced. The filler seems to have been a quick/cheap effort to level the center strip of the roof.
Any other observations out there?
My tops have body filler between them, and a little bit in front. There is a guy who lived (may still) in Spokane, WA, who had a King Cobra with some ridiculously low mileage, like 215. Yes, two hundred and change. It was a sight to behold. His dad owned a dealership, and he ordered it new and stored it. He brought it out once every so often and took it to a show. I took several photos of it. The one thing about the car that upset him was the paint between the t-tops was flaking up, exposing.... body filler. He never had it fixed, as then the car would not be original anymore, so he left it as is. But, this seems to indicate that the practice was common.
I read somewhere that the targa band was installed on the II to minimize body work after the cuts were made. I'm guessing that all of this means that there was some distortion to the roof sheet metal after the cuts were made, as Paul experienced. The filler seems to have been a quick/cheap effort to level the center strip of the roof.
Any other observations out there?
vooderman
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My son and I invaded the local import car cruise-in. Many of the Attendees are Customers at the shop I work at, so I was not tossed out LOL They posted pics on there web site (that don't suck) of my car. Good year for Mach pictures that don't suck LOL
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s309/IMACHU2/GR_mach1.jpg
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s309/IMACHU2/GR_mach12-1.jpg
They posted pics on there web site (that don't suck) of my car. Good year for Mach pictures that don't suck LOLhttp://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s309/IMACHU2/GR_mach1.jpg
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s309/IMACHU2/GR_mach12-1.jpg
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