Can someone advise on this? What is the fair price, possibly on the Northeast, to paint the 67 stang to a near show quality? Labor + material. Outside and inside except engine compartment and undercarrieage as both are already painted. The body is completely sandblasted and primed. Windows and other accessories are removed. What needs to be done is to fix dings, align body parts, polish and paint. Any help?
fair price for the paint job
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Platonic Solid
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California, $12000 + . the shop that did our 65 (bare, media blasted prior to going to paint shop with the body on a rolling dolly). One shop wanted to start at 20K and go up without stripping the body (would have been significantly more as the quarter panel and tail light panel ended up being replaced). The shop that did ours had over 100 hours in labor and close the $1,000 in material at a minimum (search truck90278 their are photos of our 65)
Pakrat
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I'd say about the same ballpark up north more towards New Hampshire. I paid quite a bit more but I also required time on the frame machine, some sheetmetal replacement and custom fiberglass work. Worth every penny though when you compare an equal quality paint job to a car that just had a clean body vs. one that has been nicely smoothed and skim coated and has equal gaps all around, that's what makes the job show quality.
jikelly
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Holly crap that's a lot of cash.
A paint job involves a lot of time spent with a sander in hand though, and with paint jobs, generally, the more money you spend the more time they spend on the car and better paint products they will use.
A paint job involves a lot of time spent with a sander in hand though, and with paint jobs, generally, the more money you spend the more time they spend on the car and better paint products they will use.
73vertstang
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Being in the middle of restoring my 73 Vert here's what I've spent so far:
1400.00 To have the striped shell media blasted.
1000.00 In body parts (New quarters, deck pannel, quarter post, tail light pannel, NASA hood
10,000.00 To have the the new / used body parts installed, primed and first coat of paint.
Left to do after the engine/trans are installed:
1000.00 Chrome trim refinished
2500.00 Final paint, two more coats of paint, one coat of 50/50 (Half paint, half clear), one
coat of clear.
Now I've had the eng bay painted and the bottom painted and then under coated, so you
can subtract some, but you get the idea.
1400.00 To have the striped shell media blasted.
1000.00 In body parts (New quarters, deck pannel, quarter post, tail light pannel, NASA hood
10,000.00 To have the the new / used body parts installed, primed and first coat of paint.
Left to do after the engine/trans are installed:
1000.00 Chrome trim refinished
2500.00 Final paint, two more coats of paint, one coat of 50/50 (Half paint, half clear), one
coat of clear.
Now I've had the eng bay painted and the bottom painted and then under coated, so you
can subtract some, but you get the idea.
blown65
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Pakrat
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73vertstang, I have to say that after all that work I really think going with only one coat of clear is a huge mistake, that won't even last thru the colr sanding. 3 coats should be minimum.
Blown65, how good is "pretty good"? Is that just for prep and paint or does that include full panel alignment, skim coating, gapping etc...
Blown65, how good is "pretty good"? Is that just for prep and paint or does that include full panel alignment, skim coating, gapping etc...
blown65
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The car that was done for 5k was fully stripped and straightened. The builder of it is doing a frame off restore. Black paint and its very very straight and nice. (after body work) Only thing the 5k didn't include was the final cut and buff cause the person restoring it does his own.
15k price would be if your paying for a name IMO, or a trailer car that would never see the street.
it all depends on how much time is put into the job, and the cost of materials used. i have seen ok daily driver paint jobs done for $200, and really nice show quality paint jobs done for $25,000. it just depends on what level you are looking for.
Pakrat
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I paid $4800 a few years back with the family discount. Without the discount
it would of cost me $5600. I also installed all the lights bumpers and chrome
myself. I went to 2 cars shows and won a trophy last year so I was happy with
the paint job. Here are a few pics.
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it would of cost me $5600. I also installed all the lights bumpers and chrome
myself. I went to 2 cars shows and won a trophy last year so I was happy with
the paint job. Here are a few pics.
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raleighstang65
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Spank my a** and call me Charlie! That's a lot of cash! I guess it does all depend on what you plan on doing with the car. So what does a $5000 paint job get you?
I guess it all depends on the condition. I'd think that if you disassebled the car completely and stripped it down 2 bare metal it'd be significantly cheaper. For me it was a family friend who did it; i gave him the car running, he took off trim and painted, he didn't media blast it, it was stripped by sanding, its a CA car so there was virtually no rust.
mustang6tee8
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I spent about $3000-$3500 on my paintjob that is worth about $12000.
How did I do it you might ask? I did a lot of work myself! I took all of the panels off, did bondo work, sanded the primer, did most of the wetsanding, and reassembled the car myself. I was 17/18 at the time of body work, so it can be done easy enough by anyone. I worked at the body shop too so that helped a lot- the body man only charged me $15 an hour
It depends on the body shop (whether or not they will let you help out).
My paint is not perfect (ie barely visible sanding marks on the roof), but for what I paid, it's show quality enough for me!
The painter is also really really good.. He painted this car as well
How did I do it you might ask? I did a lot of work myself! I took all of the panels off, did bondo work, sanded the primer, did most of the wetsanding, and reassembled the car myself. I was 17/18 at the time of body work, so it can be done easy enough by anyone. I worked at the body shop too so that helped a lot- the body man only charged me $15 an hour
It depends on the body shop (whether or not they will let you help out).
My paint is not perfect (ie barely visible sanding marks on the roof), but for what I paid, it's show quality enough for me!
The painter is also really really good.. He painted this car as well
CraigMBA
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I think I'm $10K deep and I haven't got color on mine yet. I got a good guy price. If I'd ran this through the front door of the shop? Maybe $20K. For a really good job? More.
Resprays on these cars are bucks. Nobody want's to do them.
Resprays on these cars are bucks. Nobody want's to do them.
What is the "level" is what I am trying to understand. No matter if you have $2,000 or $20,000 job you have to prepare the body to have nice smooth curves, no dings, and align panels so they fit. A bit more hits by hammer to be perfectly aligned I believe is not making this difference. When applying paint, same procedures are needed in both jobs - body filler, water sanding, 2-4 layers of basic paint, 3 layers of laque, some polishing. Then quality of the paint. What wrong could happen to $100/kg paint from a reputable manufacturer compared to $300/kg paint (eg MaxMeyer or PPG)?
It really is not a matter of "a bit more hits by a hammer". It takes a lot of time to prepare the surface for final color. Many hours of priming and block sanding, shooting guide coats and more block sanding. When a shop will spend easily in excess of 100 hours with out major repair work, the costs go way up. When you take into account the "cost of doing business" (workers comp, insurance, rent, equipment, EPA "environmental polution agency" etc.) it adds up fast. I have painted probably 15 special interest cars (~8 mustangs) and I have spent a mininmum of 100 hours up to 250 hours per car. The reason the "One Day" shops can do it cheap is they do absolutley the minimum of preparation (a couple of hours surface prep) and lowest cost paint purchased in bulk quantities, in fact their colors are limited. If you ask for a factory color their costs change. As far as cost of paint, the costs are more than just the base color. There is activator, reducers, hardners, clear coats with their hardners etc. Material prices can easily exceed $1,000.
As in an earlier response, I said we paid $12,000 for our Mustang paint and metal work, which included fitting some FG parts (I stopped painting, too much work). We got a bargain at that price. It all depends on what you want and how long it will last. One thing I would do is to look at their work on special interest vehicles. If a shop mainly does newer vehicles and insurance work, they tend to shy away from earlier special interest vehicles - their reason is that as they get into them they find many hidden problems and don't want to deal with the issures. Find a shop that does a lot of work on older cars if possible.
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