Really? .. like what? I have to say that most of the products you listed are merely OTC products. Talked about Meguiars not having a good wax, etc. Have you ever used M16? It will blow ANY product that Zaino has out of the water ...
Nope, haven't used it...I've used pretty-much all OTC stuff...and pretty-much all of it I could buy.
Mothers as the best combination? Once again, compared to what? There are TONS of products out there on the market that blows Mothers out of the market. Meguiars is about the only mainstream company that puts out products OTC that has a TON of great products, mostly in their D-Line but some of their A-Line is fantastic as well. Poorboy's, Chemical Guys, Merzena polishes, etc all make products that are leaps and bounds better.
I think Mother's is the best combination of "OTC" products that do a decent job of making your car look good while adding lasting protection to the paint. In other words I don't doubt there's hundreds of products out there that make your car look better when you roll out of the detail shop...then it looks like **** a couple of days later after it rains or you wash it the first time. The way I see it, in order to add lasting protection you need to coat the paint with something and I haven't found anything better than carnauba wax for that. If you know of some synthetic poly crap that does a better job (and I'm not saying it doesn't exist) then please post details; the non-wax products I've used all make the car look great (by smearing greasy residue that fills the surface scratches) but don't last or protect.
Turtle Wax ICE is laughed about among the detailing community. Come on ... A liquid clay bar? That scheme has been around since the 80s ... It's nothing more than a cleaner wax. It's not even on the same level as a true clay bar.
Aw, man...that's a low blow to my ego...it
crushes me to know that I don't have the love and approval of the "detailing community"
Also you crushed my misconceptions that ICE liquid clay bar was on the level of a true clay bar!!
(extreme sarcasm intended)
Bottom line...the product works for me! Of course it isn't like a "true" clay bar (I use a 'real' clay bar as well) but it's not so lowly of a product to warrant comparison to a cleaner wax either...it works much better than cleaner waxes IMO and it isn't abrasive like some cleaner waxes are. Have you actually tried it or are you commenting based solely on what the detailing community has to say?
Don't take this as a bashing or the like because it's not intended for that. I'm just trying to clarify some information that I feel needs it.
Well...that's more-or-less what it is. It strikes me as more of a "Drive by Bashing" though, since you made the hit then ran off without sticking around to actually "clarify some information"...which you stated was your intended purpose.
The way I see it these forums are for discussion and learning...and none of us are getting paid to post here. We do it out of our own free will to help others based on our own experiences. I'll stand by what I said 100% based on my actual experience to-date with the actual products.
Now you, on the other hand have just stated that in your opinion I don't know jack about detailing and publicly displayed your vast knowledge of all that is 'auto detailing' when it comes to non-OTC products. My challenge to you...for my own benefit...and the benefit of others on the forum...is for you to quantify some of your claims in an objective way so that we all can learn.
For example...
WHY is "Poorboy's, Chemical Guys, Merzena polishes, etc" "leaps and bounds better"??
Why is Meguiar's "D-Line but some of their A-Line" "fantastic"?? Lastly, if there is a product that offers better long lasting protection than Mothers pure carnauba wax...
name it so I can try it out!!!
A drive by bashing without any details to back up your opinions does nothing for anyone here...a detailed post describing the pros/cons of several products that you've personally tried out could be quite useful to all of us.
