Another clutch Q

[86turbo]

have an 85 coupe with h/c/i and need to get a new clutch. I had a rebuilt t5 that just got murdered by a zoom clutch I was running. The clutch shuddered and the trans has been getting looser and looser. I"m going to be buying an astro t5 and need input on which clutch I should go with....

approx 300rw and might see a small shot. This is a street car and will prob never see the track. I've heard good and bad things about the king cobra. I'm looking for something with a light pedal but the CF dual friction seems to be overkill

Anyone?

thanks,

Drew

 

[BK_CAULEY]

ive had two different style zoom clutches and had nothing but bad experience with them. but if you can afford it fidanza is the way to go.

 

[347HO]

My choice would be the Spec series clutches.
I suggest a Spec 3, but in your best interest I would call them up and ask for their suggestions also.
I have run them in the past with great success, and will again in the near future.

 

[FORDBOY1516]

i would go with the cf

 

[ShortThrow50]

Not saying others didnt have problems for whatever reason, but all i have ever used is a king cobra in my tko600. i have been using the same clutch since i did h/c/i and tko swap, a year later vortech s-trim with 10 psi, and now almost a year later after that, a 347 stroker. Same clutch since the beginning of all 3 builds. doesnt seem to be any wear at all. Its as smooth as the stock clutch and I have nothing but good things to say about it. Out of curiousity, what are people saying about the king cobra clutch being the problem? Are they doing clutch dumps with 600+ hp or something?

 

[86turbo]

347HO- A spec stage 3 would not kill the astro t5 but it's overkill for my combo. I've run the spec stage 2 and 3 and I want something more subtle. Those clutches were fine for my turbo h/c/i car but not my na dd.

I actually planned to go kind cobra in my car. The zoom I have right now is garbage.... it chatters and the pedal effort is pretty heavy. I'm not scrawny at all but this clutch is annoying as hell driving around town. It's weird that some people say the pedal effort on the king cobra is heavier than the dual friction and then others say the opposite. The dual friction is overkill for my setup...I dont need a clutch that can handle 600ft/.lb of torque in a 2800 coupe that prob makes less than 400fl lbs. Plus with the nitrous/blower I plan to add its all about the weakest link.....tires.

Drew

 

[parrish5o]

I had a King Cobra for awhile. It was a good clutch but the pedal was very heavy.

 

[86turbo]

As I understand it the king cobra kit is a stock disk but a higher clamp pressure plate.
I was looking through summit and jegs tonight and noticed that a lot of clutches (like centerforce) uses the same disk for various mustang kits. It seems like the pressure plate is the only thing that's dif. It all changes when you get into puck clutches and the like.....

Drew

 

[347HO]

347HO- A spec stage 3 would not kill the astro t5 but it's overkill for my combo. I've run the spec stage 2 and 3 and I want something more subtle. Those clutches were fine for my turbo h/c/i car but not my na dd.

Drew

I suggested the Spec3 due to your mention of a small shot of "smack".
1st and 2nd are okay with that, but 3rd you start to lose your torque advantage due to gearing.
IMO the Spec3 has a light pedal feel, and clamping force should keep the slippage low and not overheat/fade.

 

[Rick 91GT]

I suggested the Spec3 due to your mention of a small shot of "smack".
1st and 2nd are okay with that, but 3rd you start to lose your torque advantage due to gearing.
IMO the Spec3 has a light pedal feel, and clamping force should keep the slippage low and not overheat/fade.

I wouldn't run the Stage 3 with the stock T5 and talk to Tony @ Astro, he may talk you out of it as well... They are aggressive even if you go 6 puck they can be violent, put they will hold all you can throuw at it. If you powershift and the car hooks the tranny will break well before that clutch gives up. My stage 3 held 742FTLBS of TQ

Pro-Motion has some interesting clutch profiles give them a shout and talk to Walt, and I think Tony @ Astro has some as well. I know the NMRA Pure Street guys were using some intersting profiles that had high holding power, put were less violent.

 

[347HO]

I wouldn't run the Stage 3 with the stock T5 and talk to Tony @ Astro, he may talk you out of it as well... They are aggressive even if you go 6 puck they can be violent, put they will hold all you can throuw at it. If you powershift and the car hooks the tranny will break well before that clutch gives up. My stage 3 held 742FTLBS of TQ

Pro-Motion has some interesting clutch profiles give them a shout and talk to Walt, and I think Tony @ Astro has some as well. I know the NMRA Pure Street guys were using some intersting profiles that had high holding power, put were less violent.

It's a "street" car!

 

[The O.G.]

prices for king cobras

 

[86turbo]

I spoke incorrectly about the king cobra.....did you guys know it uses a dual friction clutch disk? I thought it used the stocker.......

I dont want to use a puck clutch (Stage 3).......I've ran the stage on my turbo car, which is a torque monster, and never had probs with slipping. Whats the stage 2 rated at anyway?

I still have my spec clutches sitting in my shed. Is the stage 3 pressure plate the same as a stage 2?

Drew

 

[347HO]

I spoke incorrectly about the king cobra.....did you guys know it uses a dual friction clutch disk? I thought it used the stocker.......

I dont want to use a puck clutch (Stage 3).......I've ran the stage on my turbo car, which is a torque monster, and never had probs with slipping. Whats the stage 2 rated at anyway?

I still have my spec clutches sitting in my shed. Is the stage 3 pressure plate the same as a stage 2?

Drew

I forgot Spec made the "puck" style stage3 hub. I have used the disc style, and I don't know if the pressure plates are the same between "stages".
It's always best to ask the manufacturer the specifics IMO.

In your application, a "puck" style will work well. If you step it up on the torque and traction I suggest NOT using any puck style clutch setup.

 

[5spd GT]

The limited experience I had with a Spec stage 2, I did not like it.

CF all the way. I have ran 4-5 different clutches.

 

[347HO]

The limited experience I had with a Spec stage 2, I did not like it.

CF all the way. I have ran 4-5 different clutches.

The subject isn't whether "you" like it or not.
My take on what Drew's looking for is information on other clutches and how they perform and feel. The advantages of what each offer and why.

And on how many clutches you've run is moot. I can make one clutch feel like 5 different ones and work on a purely street car up to a track only. But offering only that by itself doesn't help the OP out.

 

[The O.G.]

The subject isn't whether "you" like it or not.
My take on what Drew's looking for is information on other clutches and how they perform and feel. The advantages of what each offer and why.

And on how many clutches you've run is moot. I can make one clutch feel like 5 different ones and work on a purely street car up to a track only. But offering only that by itself doesn't help the OP out.

what?

 

[347HO]

what?

Did it go over your head?

 

[The O.G.]

no

 

[5spd GT]

The subject isn't whether "you" like it or not.
My take on what Drew's looking for is information on other clutches and how they perform and feel. The advantages of what each offer and why.
And on how many clutches you've run is moot. I can make one clutch feel like 5 different ones and work on a purely street car up to a track only. But offering only that by itself doesn't help the OP out.

Which is exactly why I stated I did not like it.

Sorry if this offended you.