Comp Cams VS Hot Rod Cams

[BLAKDOUT]

yeah thats why i figured id do all my boltons and stuff then get cams when im done with everything else..... do the Mac Longtubes make good power and good quality?

 

[CRoberts91]

does anyone know if the Hot Rods are compatible with FI? i know i wont see quite the gains of an FI grind, but roughly how much power will be lost? 10-20hp?

 

[SpartaPerformance]

Hammeron is correct, while the Thumpers make more peak HP the Hot Rods give you a wider range if power and also have a much smoother torque curve, so your car will be quicker with the Hot Rods then the Thumpers because there is more torque generating more HP over the entire RPM range rather then just peak power between 5,000 - 5,900 RPM which is a small window of 900 rpm

looks like thumpers are the way to go then? they made the most power in that graph.

 

[Easley]

Got the thumper II package from Bamachips. Shipping was fast, 3email tunes were free because I'm a return customer. Did the install myself. Took me 5hrs but was easy and no cussing involved. Started right up first try. Best mod I did to the car so far. I love to sit at stoplights now.

 

[ufnavy06]

yeah thats why i figured id do all my boltons and stuff then get cams when im done with everything else..... do the Mac Longtubes make good power and good quality?

The MAC LT make good power and I've had mine on for over a year and a half. No issues. Sounds good too.

 

[CRoberts91]

Got the thumper II package from Bamachips. Shipping was fast, 3email tunes were free because I'm a return customer. Did the install myself. Took me 5hrs but was easy and no cussing involved. Started right up first try. Best mod I did to the car so far. I love to sit at stoplights now.

i didnt know bamachips had one of those packages. i'll probably go with that since i already have bamachips tunes. what all is involved in the cam install? i am mechanically inclined but all i've done so far is swap out my axle-backs and put in a cold air kit.

 

[Easley]

There's a lot of write ups on the net and even a video somewhere. If you installed a cam on a pushrod engine before this is alot easier. I didn't even get dirty. Check around on the forums there are a few that will loan you the special tools or even sell them at a better price than new. It took me 5hrs from opening the hood to starting it up. I don't have hardly any tools, didn't have the special tools, it was snowing and freezing in my garage. Most of that time was trying to find a timing mark on my balancer, second guessing myself and trying to fix a bad cam phaser that flew apart on me. It's extremely easy if you have some understanding of engines. It pains me to see people pay money to have someone else do it.

 

[hren59]

The installation of the hot rods is very straight forward. You need the special valve spring compressor and timing chain wedge though. The tools are expensive,and the valve spring compressor is completely necessary. The $90 timing chain wedge seems like a real rip off but i don't recommend trying to improvise that tool, I think knocking the timing off and a generally sloppy install is why some people have poor results from these cams. My car runs very strong with these cams on a custom brenspeed tune. I haven't even really felt the need for a dyno tune. You'll probably like them.


EDIT: wow, I didn't even read the post above mine. My post is in no way shape or form intended to dispute Easley's methods. Just saying that the special tools help a lot.

 

[ufnavy06]

So who's got the best price currently on the FRPP HRs? My car just turned 3 and she needs a late bday present. Seems about $800 is the norm.... and that is for both cams right? (I feel like that might be a stupid question, but hey whatever.)

And any word on the applicability of the HR with a S/C? I've thought about the combo for the nice idle sound, the S/C whine at WOT and obviously the power gains.

 

[black2010]

Passing your state inspection requirements should be your biggest concern.
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Can someone elaborate on this comment? If your emmisions are in check how could they pass it? By keeping the cats on the car and having a good tune should keep the exhaust just as clean which should allow for the car to pass, correct? According to my dealer if they install the cams it wouldn't even void my factory warantee so it failing emmisions would fall on them to fix...

Curious mind wants to know as I want some cams on on my 2010.

Also - Anyone know for sure if these work on the 2010's? I went to my dealer today and they advised me the hot rod cam's wont work on my car and to wait a couple months for FRPP to develope them for the 2010 :-( I thought the 2010 had the same motor as the 09 bullets.

 

[MattyS83]

I've had Comp Stage III cams for a year now; it actually was nowhere near as lopey as i thought it would be. However, I just opened up the exhaust and with the idle speed set low at 650, it gave me the sound i was looking for. Very lopey, actually shakes the car a little at idle.