2011 may have a Cobra

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Except for his AC Cobra, I just never got the Shelby thing, his mustangs in the past were not very fast, The Mach 1 and the GT in 68-69 could beat the Shelby's easy. His cars were more luxury that fast. His new GT500 is kind of fast but a GT with a Procharger would be just as fast and $15,000. cheaper. Personally, I will be glad when the Shelby is gone and the Cobra is back, For what it's worth, SVT made a very good car and Shelby put his name on it. I would love to have one without "SHELBY" on it. But thats me.

GT350's in 65-67 offered much better performance than their "standard" Mustang counterparts. But, when Ford took over "Shelby" production in 1968 things changed and they became more luxury than fast - as you pointed out.

And you are 100% correct that SVT made a very good car (07+ GT500) that is only a Shelby in name (except that he suggested wider tires on the rear - big deal). The car should have just been an SVT Cobra, IMO, as well.
 
There is no market inbetween the GT and the GT500. Well, sort of, steeda, rousch, saleen, etc. But even still, I am pretty sure it will not happen. Fun to dream though, at least you know down to it's roots that this car was built by SVT.

So you are essentially getting a SVT car and a Shelby price. (<----raped)

There is certainly a market for cars in between a regular GT and the SVT Mustang (whatever name they give it). Mach 1 and Bullitt are very good, recent examples.
 
Justin
Friend of mine who owns a Ford dealership told me that he doesn't think the Shelby will be available in 2011. He is a SVT dealer as well an there is some deal with the ordering. He also said he has heard the Cobra will be back in 2011. Granted, dealers don't know everything and I told him if they do make a Cobra in 2011, I want one. Maroon with Dark Charcoal please.

Most recent contract that dealers signed was for 2010 & 2011, IIRC< so there should be two years minimum on this body style.

And you are correct, us dealers don't always know everything - mostly because Ford keeps us in the dark, too!!!!
 
This has gone into a lot to do about nothing.
Some may think I called someone a name, Don't care, Some may think because they say I'm wrong that I am wrong, don't care, Some think I should read someone’s opinion, don't care. If Shelby owners want to think they have a cobra, think it. The AC Cobra I test drove and almost bought in November 1968 must not have existed because someone said the last one sold was in August and they must be right. I think I will go take my daughters V6 Cobra for a ride and when I get back I will put some snakes on my motorcycle. A Kawasaki Cobra, do ya think Ford will mind?

"Cobra"

That makes this post a Cobra

No you are wrong because you are WRONG.

Like I said before just because you THINK you know what you are talking about doesn't me you do. I actually do know what I'm talking about because I've read about it and know a few people that work for Roush and SVT. My brother-in-law being someone that worked on the prototype GT500/Cobra.

Read this you might learn something.

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No you are wrong because you are WRONG.

Yep. Very Wrong...

I was going to mention the fact, which is shown in your image, that there is a Roush facility in the Fairlane complex right across the street from the Detroit Lions training facility about a 1/2 mile away from Ford's VO (Vehicle Operations) Building down in Allen Park, MI. It's right around the corner from my former employers (Siemens PLM Software, Inc.) Ford Product Office.

From what I remember of the S197 program the higher performance version was originally internally always referred to as the Cobra.
 
Yellow
Would you mind telling me that I'm rich. Seems that all you have to do is say stuff and to you it's true. Come on, Your rich.
I would imagine that if I looked I could probably find some old Article that says GT500s are not Cobras, But,,,,, I don't care.

Why did you want me to read that article. I said Jack worked with SVT, But it was for the Bullit and the BOSS. I even put up a link that jack tells about Bullit 1.


Five Oh Brian
What's the problem with ordering of the Shelby's? Are you a SVT dealer? Why do you guys mark up the Shelby over invoice, Because you can? Friend of mine marks up the GT's and the Shelby's to a point were you just go, Huuuuh.
 
Yellow
Would you mind telling me that I'm rich. Seems that all you have to do is say stuff and to you it's true. Come on, Your rich.
I would imagine that if I looked I could probably find some old Article that says GT500s are not Cobras, But,,,,, I don't care.

Why did you want me to read that article. I said Jack worked with SVT, But it was for the Bullit and the BOSS. I even put up a link that jack tells about Bullit 1.


Are you really that stubborn and dense or are you just plain dumb? It says that Roush worked with SVT on the terminator along with other SVT products.

That’s out of a book written by John Coletti, do you know who John Coletti is? He was the head of SVT from the beginning he was part of every SVT produced.

It’s unbelievable that you are that ignorant that I give you written proof from the HEAD OF SVT and you still say it’s false. You seriously need too pull your head out of your a**.

You need to grow up and admit when you are wrong instead of acting like a child.
 
Yellow
Listen , Little boy, You may find it easy to talk to a computer screen that way but I doubt you would say those things to my face. I live in Houston. Come visit, we will discuss it. After you pull your head out of the nearest trash can you may go back to where ever it is you call home. The Moderators here seem to find it fit that you call people names. So I guess it would be ok If I called you a name. Ahhhh, No thanks. Think what you will.
 
No you are wrong because you are WRONG.

Like I said before just because you THINK you know what you are talking about doesn't me you do. I actually do know what I'm talking about because I've read about it and know a few people that work for Roush and SVT. My brother-in-law being someone that worked on the prototype GT500/Cobra.

Read this you might learn something.

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Cool! Thanks for posting that... I never shoulda doubted you! Well, we all gotta learn somewhere! :nice:

I just never saw the resemblance because as far as parts and styling goes, the Roush and Cobra look like 3rd cousins, not 1st cousins. Cool cool!! :)
 
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