Bought a car/need gofast help

ViperNuge

ViperNuge

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#1
Finally made a deal with my dealer on an 06 gt auto tranny with 16k miles. Gotta great price of $15.6k plus tax and license so now its time for the gofast. Car already has spintech mufflers and a x pipe installed.

Gears 4.10 Who sells the complete kit for the best price? Living on an island I hate it when you get what you thought was everything only to find out you need those damn bearings and have to wait another 4 days cause they are not available on island.....happened before.

SCT tuner. Got an auto so I thinking bamachips. I wont be able to get the gears intalled for awhile (month or so) so how does the speedo calibration work? Can I use my new tunes or do I have to get new ones after I get the gears installed?

CAI. Should I bother? I have read lots of threads that say dont bother. I know they do offer bling appeal but with a tune are they worth it? Which one?

TCI shifter. Seems buying direct from tci is the cheapest route.

I am very excited to get rolling. Should pick up the car today. Stoked to be in the stang club now!!:flag:

patrick
 

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#4
Definately concider cai. With the exhaust and tune it will open up. I have the JLT CAI and SCT with custom tune an if done right it can get like 20+ hp. Personally ford is the only gearing I trust. It's too easy to screw up and almost all performance parts websites sell the kit or just gearing which if I'm correct you should only need the gears anyway. Not my favorite exhaust but can't complain if it came with it. And as for shifter that's all personal preference and depends on styling also. I like the MGW which is one of the best short throws and a big reason for me is it doesn't stick up it looks stock but is amazing. Roush and some others stick up and just not my style though it isn't ugly but the short throw makes a biiiig difference if your driving hard. Good luck with everything and if you have any questions for me or anything pm me
 
#5
Not sure but I think the FRPP Kit 4.10 setup should have all the parts that are necessary.

Bamachips is a great tuner, I got my tunes from them before but I do have one complaint they switch off the cats while other comparable tuners don't and that may give you issues when inspection time comes around (something you may or may not want to consider).

CAI defnitely worth it. You'll pick up a few extra horses that way, besides most retailers sell tuner/CAI combos so that should make your life easier. I have a JLTII Intake which is the cheapest and best bang for the buck though the quality is a little more homespun then something like a C&L.

TCI Shifter: like nike says Just do it.
 
#6
Steel Horse said:
Are you still shooting for 13.00 or slower?
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Great memory dude!! LOL Yes I really only want to run 13's. Dont need to get there next week either.

Thanks for the inputs guys. Gonna order a JLT CAI, SCT with bamachips tunes. Need to find the proper install place on Maui for the 4.10 gears. Got an auto so no short throw shifter needed. Gotta get the tci shifter ....its so freaking cool looking. Just do for sure!:D

I have never used a sct controller. Is each tune gear specific? ie...can I order the tuner enjoy it now with my stock gears and later on after I get the gears installed do I then have to get a rewrite for my tunes for the new gear ratio? Is that gonna cost me? Or .....do I just order the sct with 4.10 gears programs and just install both at the same time? Sorry for all the dumb questions.:(

I picked up the car today. What a difference a detail job makes. I think it hadnt been washed for months. It cleaned up so good. I am so impressed. With the tc off it feels pretty good. I got some nice burnouts from a dead stop.......I had a big ole grin going!!:nice: The drive by wire throttle response is so slow.....I cant wait to get the bamachips tunes in there!

Previous owner was a slacker so I only got one key, no manual and have an aftermarket alarm which is activated via the stock key fob. I have read how you can check your mpg via the computor read out. Is this only on premium models or do all models have this ability?

patrick
 
#7
Most tuners leave a couple of options open like gear ratio, tire size, transmission shift stiffness, and some timing setting so you can fine tune your setup. I do believe Doug (Bamachips) will update your tune for free of charge (if you buy mods from him) or for a small fee if you get more mods since your initial purchase.

Definitely make sure you order your tune with the gears you currently have or your speedometer will be way off.
 
#10
americanmuscle.com has pretty good deals that come with the gears (either 4.10 or 3.73), SCT tuner with free email tunes for life, and three quarts of royal purple gear oil for only about $540. With CAI, Tuner, and 4.10 gears it will be a huge performance gain.
 
#12
You can get the 4.10's cheaper than americanmuscle.. They ask 170, if you look around youll find a looot of sites that sell it for 140. the biggest expense at that point is getting them installed. Would not recommend doing it youself. If it is not done exactly perfect you will get rattling forever. LOL. I would have it done by Ford personally but you can find some shops that will do it. I know a lot of people that did it there slef and they can live with it but theirs rattle a bit. I couldnt handle it ever cuz I have OCD and need it done correctly. So the people that paid said they got with install (gears, install, oils, factory warrenty on work done) for about 500$ Sometimes a little more sometime a little less. But if you get the gears and then have it done it is going to be just as much. At least anywhere around me
 
#13
I hear ya 21. Have been asking around trying to find out the good shop. I had the ford dealer work on my work truck and the gears now groan horribly......sooooooo I really dont plan to have them touch my hot rod!

patrick
 
#14
21MsclCr said:
You can get the 4.10's cheaper than americanmuscle.. They ask 170, if you look around youll find a looot of sites that sell it for 140. the biggest expense at that point is getting them installed. Would not recommend doing it youself. If it is not done exactly perfect you will get rattling forever. LOL. I would have it done by Ford personally but you can find some shops that will do it. I know a lot of people that did it there slef and they can live with it but theirs rattle a bit. I couldnt handle it ever cuz I have OCD and need it done correctly. So the people that paid said they got with install (gears, install, oils, factory warrenty on work done) for about 500$ Sometimes a little more sometime a little less. But if you get the gears and then have it done it is going to be just as much. At least anywhere around me
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Just as a future reference, Dallas Mustang has done 3 gear swaps between me and my dad and they are perfect - zero gear whine. Can't remember what I paid, but I think it was in the 300-400 neighborhood at the time.

ViperNuge said:
I hear ya 21. Have been asking around trying to find out the good shop. I had the ford dealer work on my work truck and the gears now groan horribly......sooooooo I really dont plan to have them touch my hot rod!

patrick
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Get everything done at once. It's going to give you a major kick in the pants versus doing it seperately. Also, do you know if your car came with limited slip? Might be worth doing at the same time as the gears. Wouldn't cost too much more in labor.

I would go off personal reccomendation only for your remote location. Finde a mustang club, find someone who's changed their gears, then find out who did them. Just because it's a ford dealer doesn't mean they will get it 100% right 100% of the time. Just my 2 cents. :nice:
 
#15
Justin01 said:
Get everything done at once. It's going to give you a major kick in the pants versus doing it seperately. Also, do you know if your car came with limited slip? Might be worth doing at the same time as the gears. Wouldn't cost too much more in labor.

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Good point about the limited slip. Wasnt that standard on a GT model?

I actually did a nice long burnout the day I got the car and went back the next day to where I did it and was surprised to only see one tire mark.:shrug:

patrick
 
#18
I wouldn't say they are prone to breakage but you gotta understand how the different LSD's work. In the simplest of terms there are 5 types of locking differentials. The Clutch type, Viscous Type, the Helical/Torsen Type, Locking Type, and Welded Type (last not really limited slip but I'll include it anyway).

The clutch type is just that a series of clutch packs that engage and disengage with torque to lock both wheels when necessary. There are 3 main types the 1 way, 1.5 way, and 2 way types. 1 way diffs engage only on acceleration or applied torque, 1.5 way engage 100% on acceleration and at a fraction of the torque on deceleration. Finally the two way engages both on acceleration and deceleration and disengages when the torque applied to the wheel falls beyond the limiting factor.
The Ford Trac-loc LSD is a clutch type LSD which I believe is a 1 way unit. The advantage of these units is that they lock aggressively when the torque threshold is reached and don't let go. The downside is that the clutch packs do wear out, especially without proper differential fluid maintenance which includes special oil weights and additives. If the differential has been neglected or abused over time it will stop locking as the clutches burn out and quit functioning altogether. This diff type in various iterations is good for drag racing, and drifting.

The viscous type works like a clutch type only that instead of using clutches a special heavy fluid causes the unit to engage and lock the axles together. As you can imagine this is the preferred unit for stock application as it is cheap and easy to manufacturer. The downside of course that the fluid after realtively light abuse (read heat) and or neglect will lose its (viscosity) and thus ability to lock the wheels. Good for a well maintained daily that doesn't see any abuse otherwise I'd run away or switch it out in a heartbeat (I'd do that anyway).

The Helical/Torsen (TORque SENsing) Unit is my favorite type of LSD. It uses a series of interlocking gears that activate based on the applied torque. The result is a smooth and progressive locking of the differential. The obvious pros to this type of unit is that it has an almost seamless function whereas the Clutch and Locking type can activate with a kick potentially causing stability issues during hard cornering and adverse weather conditions. The other great benefit is the durability of the unit. Without clutches or fluids to burn up it's all a matter of basting the thing in some quality synthetic fluid and going for it. I used to run Redline Heavy Shockproof on my Nissan R200H Spec-R differential and it was bombproof. The only downside is that the effect works best when both wheels are in contact with the ground meaning on uneven bumpy roads the LSD may not engage fully or properly but I had one and that wasn't really an issue. This unit is great for basically Daily Driving, Autocross and Road Racing. I'm getting one of these ASAP.

Last two are basically the same only difference is that the Locking type I believe locks when any slippage is detected and the welded type is ALWAYS locked because the spider gears have been manually welded. Good for drag racing and that's about it I wouldn't recommend daily driving on these.

Definitely changing the unit for one more suitable to your needs would be smart thing to do if you're planning on doing gears. All they would have to do is bolt on the new gears to the new LSD unit you bought and install it. They wouldn't even have to mess with the stock parts other then removing them completely.
 
#20
Great info Walter, but you forgot one.

My personal favorite is the Auburn Gear Ected E-Locker.

This spiffy little unit acts as a limited slip most of the time, but at the flip of a switch, power is sent to it, and it becomes fully locked, just as if it's a spool.

Great street manners when unlocked, solid traction when you need it :nice:
 
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