Those are 2.1L Kenne Bell'esqe numbers....so assuming he doesn't have the kind of money into his kit that he would have spent on a new intercooled 2.1L KB, I'd say he's no further behind than anyone who bought one of those?
Those are 2.1L Kenne Bell'esqe numbers....so assuming he doesn't have the kind of money into his kit that he would have spent on a new intercooled 2.1L KB, I'd say he's no further behind than anyone who bought one of those?
Kenne Bell adds a ton of timing and race fuel during their dyno testing, which is why they're able to advertise such great numbers, but in any real world situation you wouldn't make near that amount of power.....at least not without breaking something.
Your average Kenne Bell 2.1L will put out 360-375rwhp (automatic) and 375-390rwhp (5-speed) on a Dynojet and slightly less than that on a Mustang Dyno. I've yet to actually see one put out the 405rwhp claimed (and that figure were actually from an old 1.7L, not the 2.1L) by Kenne Bell. Kenne Bell adds a ton of timing and race fuel during their dyno testing, which is why they're able to advertise such great numbers, but in any real world situation you wouldn't make near that amount of power.....at least not without breaking something.
The 2.1L still does have the greater potential, I will agree with that. And its a quality blower....I just thought we should clear the air on their realistic average power capabilities.
This is a very good point and why you can't necessarily compare results with what I have.
My timing was 14 degrees which is the stock saleen timing. That's a VERY important difference. I went conservative on purpose because I'm on stock internals. If I want a paper to read 400....then I'd increase the timing (or tune it for race gas) and go more aggressive. I'd rather keep my car safe and have peace of mind when I floor it.
The tech drove it 35 minutes to the dyno....strapped it down and then fired it up (no cooldown). We did it this way in order to compare results with the last time I had a tune. Why did we do it this way? Because we wanted to compare it to how it was done last time on the same dyno.
There were no tricks on my dyno runs. No race gas, no nitrous shot, no packing ice or letting it cool overnight on a dyno to inflate the numbers. Just increased the tune for added air and still left the timing at stock (14 degrees). The air temperature and humidity were almost exactly identical. Whenever you see people add an intercooler or a tork tech intake or a CAI.....shops typically increase the timing which increases the gains. I left HP and torque on the table in the interest of extreme caution.
It's pointless to compare a dyno sheet against someone else's because dyno sheets are very easily manipulated......but here you go. Have at it!
PS-potential HP of 500 with a KB system are a moot point for me. Like I said....I was looking for 390 on a safe tune and I have no intention of forging in the future.
PSS- The throttle response with the single blade oval throttle body is like night and day. I really can't describe how much quicker my car feels...even compared to my old accufab 75mm.
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Still waiting to get myne to a dyno to get the finished tune.... Im on a stiege ported eaton with a modestly ported manifold, home job intercooler fix, tork tech inlet/tbody and bbk 03 cobra cai, 42lb injectors, 90mm maf, kb bap, full exhaust, upgraded heat exchanger... Hoping for 380+, and ill be happy as ****. My cars a vert and is mainly a looker, but my procharged setup @ 360 horse was damn fun, and had none of the low end like the heaton... Will update once the 4 feet of snow melt and i make it to a dyno for numbers! If i don't like what I see next step is blower cams and possibly Trickflows new heads...
my #'s before tork tech inlet upgrade was 352rwhp 382rwtq 28hp gain, most guys get 35 hp from this upgrade.I didnt use the tork tech single blade throttle boby that come with this kit,I used a cobra twin 65mm, I think if i had used the single blade throttle body, it would have gave me 7 hp more .I also think this is why i had the high idling once i install this upgrade i should have used the single blade throttle body, but it is on the way,My boost did go up i was surprise to see 15 psi on the supercharger. I think 400+ hp is easy to get with this inlet upgrade with ported intake ,heads and cams.