Ranger or s10/sonoma

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#22
D-BOI said:
nice rig dude!!! the xj is neck to neck with favorite automobiles for me next to the mustang, and its funny because alot of mustang guys have cherokees.
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Haha, thanks man. Yours is nicer than mine...trust me, lol. Do you have 2 or 3" of lift on there? I have a 2" budget boost with 30x9.50 Kumho mud terrains. Biggest regret is getting a 15x7 and not 15x8 wheel, and 30's and not 31's... live and learn...:p

But yeah, big Mustang/Jeep owner ratio going on. I couldn't bring myself to sell the Cherokee after I bought my Mustang. Hell, I still want to mod it.

Are you on jeepforum or jeepsunlimited?
 
#24
I had a 97 sonoma and 03 s10 both with the zq8 suspension and one a 5 speed the s10 an auto. I wish I had them both as they were great trucks.

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#25
BurningRubber said:
I see your XJ and raise you mine. But I can knock 19mpg out of mine...:shrug:

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XJ FTW
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Only sitting on a 2" BB but i have a set of s-10 leaf's ,3" coils and new shocks waiting.


as for the ranger/s-10 thing i would go with a whichever you get a good deal on. they are both great trucks and both have their advantages and disadvantages. I can say the 4.3 has been a pain in the but in my mother in law's blazer, and my father in law has a 4.0L ranger with zero problems. there has been alot of fuel related issues with the 4.3 she has. But i do love those Zr2 s-10's
 
#26
Demented5oh said:
XJ FTW
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Only sitting on a 2" BB but i have a set of s-10 leaf's ,3" coils and new shocks waiting.
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Clearly the Stang/XJ combo is quite popular. Mines a '96 and I love it, I drive it more than the Mustang!:D
Whore:
3.5" Lift, Cragar Soft8's, Gdyear A/T's, etc etc.
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Also a JF member. 96vanillaXJ :nice:



Back on topic: I've had 3 s10's and one ranger, and from the way it sounds, your perfect ride would be a 2.3L 5spd Ranger. No doubt in my mind.:flag:
 
#27
40oz said:
I don't think it matters. They are both small trucks. If one looks better or has features you prefer, go for it.

If you want the "best truck in America," screw the Toyota offerings,. They are a day late and a dollar short. The frames are flexy and weak, the boxes are weak, the whole truck was predicated on the assumption nobody ever overloaded it. We all know that real people put more in their box than the maker ever suggested was wise. Buy something that won't cave in when you eventually do that. And that means Ford, GM, or Dodge/Ram. There's a reason they call Tacomas "Tacos." And it's not just BS or anything to do with immigration.

You'd have to be a serious fool to think a Toyota was the best option. How many Tacoma's have 200K+ miles on them? My friend's Jimmy has 225K, and the engine is running as strong as the day it rolled off the line. This fall we replaced the front diff, the rear axles, bearings, and brakes. You can bet we had a few good long discussions about whether it was worth it, and the conclusion was always "yes."

I don't think there is a functional difference between an S10 and a Ranger pickup. I'd buy a used Dakota with a V8 myself if I was in the market for a light truck. The biggest weakness of the Ford and GM offerings is the lack of a V8, IMHO, but I realize it's not an issue for most people, including myself realistically.

Everybody has a preference, but I'm not sure it's a matter of what you'd be happy with regarding brand as much as what features each comes with that you prefer. And pricing. Buy the best you can afford and forget brand because they are all good trucks.

They build Rangers near me, so a bunch of my neighbors would appreciate it if you thought a new Ranger was the best truck for you. As would I, because what makes my neighbors happy makes me happy. But it's your money and your truck.
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I think it matters alot when it comes to picking a vehicle to use.
Most of the opnions in this thread sound pretty biased.
If I were purchasing a truck I would choose a Toyota Tundra or
Tacoma in a heart beat.As far as questioning the structural integrity
of these trucks I think that is just malarkey.I never seen one person
ever have a structural issue with these trucks.
I know when it comes time to trade in or sell the Toyota Tundra and
Tacoma have excellent resale value over the first five years of ownership.
They are very gasoline efficient also.What has people sold on Toyota is
the reliablity and dependablity factor.
 
#28
Icemanstang said:
I think it matters alot when it comes to picking a vehicle to use.
Most of the opnions in this thread sound pretty biased.
If I were purchasing a truck I would choose a Toyota Tundra or
Tacoma in a heart beat.As far as questioning the structural integrity
of these trucks I think that is just malarkey.I never seen one person
ever have a structural issue with these trucks.
I know when it comes time to trade in or sell the Toyota Tundra and
Tacoma have excellent resale value over the first five years of ownership.
They are very gasoline efficient also.What has people sold on Toyota is
the reliablity and dependablity factor.
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I've seen more than a few Tacos with totally rotted frames. Some that were so bad, the truck was being held together by the actual cab itself. Now, that 22R is nothing to mess with. They go on forever. If you can find a rust free Tacoma in a 22r and 5 speed, I would get it. Otherwise, it's a Danger Ranger. 89-92 are my favorite years in Rangers. The Tacomas are nice because you can rearrange the badge letters to say Yotato Taco.
 
#30
Icemanstang said:
What has people sold on Toyota is
the marketing factor.
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fix't.

I've owned a Toyota and a Honda, and there is nothing there to brag about. I'm not biased, I'm informed. There's a difference. You are biased if you think anyone who doesn't love Toyota is a hater. You believe it's not possible to ignore Toyota marketing, therefore anyone who seems to must be irrational. I say you are irrational if you refuse to entertain the idea that possibly Toyota talks a lot.

Know the difference between reality and marketing. And know that marketers lie to sell things. That's why they are called "commercials" and not "documentaries."

I'm not buying the "Toyota is reliable and dependable" BS they've been shovelling by the ton for the last 20 years. It's marketing BS, means nothing in the real world. What I've actually seen from Toyota is they make cheap cars and trucks that are no better than anyone else's and in many ways are worse.

Buy Toyota if you want, but don't try and tell me I'm "biased" as if my own experience is invalid while your experience is valid. I'm not the one telling people Toyota is perfect and all else is crap. That is irrational.
 
#31
Both the Ranger and Somoma are good trucks. I happen to own the cousin of the Ranger, Mazda B4000. It's been a great truck. I bought it new back in Jan of 96. You can see my sig below for details about the truck. I have to do the normal maintenace stuff to it. I did have to pull the tranny because the hydraulic slave cylinder was leaking. The truck had about 96000 miles on it. I did a complete clutch job on it at that time. I have snow tires on it now for winter. Great truck. Good luck with your decision. Pearl02.
 
#32
40oz said:
fix't.

I've owned a Toyota and a Honda, and there is nothing there to brag about. I'm not biased, I'm informed. There's a difference. You are biased if you think anyone who doesn't love Toyota is a hater. You believe it's not possible to ignore Toyota marketing, therefore anyone who seems to must be irrational. I say you are irrational if you refuse to entertain the idea that possibly Toyota talks a lot.

Know the difference between reality and marketing. And know that marketers lie to sell things. That's why they are called "commercials" and not "documentaries."

I'm not buying the "Toyota is reliable and dependable" BS they've been shovelling by the ton for the last 20 years. It's marketing BS, means nothing in the real world. What I've actually seen from Toyota is they make cheap cars and trucks that are no better than anyone else's and in many ways are worse.

Buy Toyota if you want, but don't try and tell me I'm "biased" as if my own experience is invalid while your experience is valid. I'm not the one telling people Toyota is perfect and all else is crap. That is irrational.
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Actually every car company trys are markets their products to the
public.You are a Toyota hater and are quite "biased" but,that's o.k.
because you are entitled to your "biased" opnion just like everyone else
in this thread.Toyota has better resale value within the first years of
ownship.As Ford and Chevrolet are still lucky to be in business.Toyota
has excellent standing in the automobile industry today.Car market for American vehicles will not change for years as will the American economy.
The Japanese car market does offer better more "dependable and
reliable vehicles than the United States does in my opnion.More gasoline
efficient vehicles are the wave of the future but,you didn't know that.
Are you kidding? People in the United States choose the Japanese brands
over American brands because they last alot longer and are more "dependable
and reliable" do more research.
The Honda Ridgeline is another excellent choose too.
The Toyota Tundra and Tacoma are the best trucks in the United States
to own period.
I worked at a Ford Dealership service department before for many years.
All the Ford techinicans said the service department was always swampped with Rangers and all the F series trucks with mechanical and electrical problems.I seriously question Fords dependablity?
 
#34
so you're biased if you don't like Toyotas...but you're not if you "drink the punch" and seem to think Toyotas are God's gift to the automotive world :rlaugh:

sorry dude, but your post are BY FAR the most one-sided and biased in this thread :notnice:
 
#37
slick35thgt said:
Clearly the Stang/XJ combo is quite popular. Mines a '96 and I love it, I drive it more than the Mustang!:D
Whore:
3.5" Lift, Cragar Soft8's, Gdyear A/T's, etc etc.
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Also a JF member. 96vanillaXJ :nice:



Back on topic: I've had 3 s10's and one ranger, and from the way it sounds, your perfect ride would be a 2.3L 5spd Ranger. No doubt in my mind.:flag:
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Nice XJ. That's about how I'd like mine to sit with some 32's on it and I'd be happy.

I'm xj4oh on JF.
 
#39
BurningRubber said:
Nice XJ. That's about how I'd like mine to sit with some 32's on it and I'd be happy.

I'm xj4oh on JF.
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Thanks. My buddy and I fabbed up the lift one Saturday and it came out very nicely, no death wobble, and if anything rides better than stock, with just a little extra drivetrain vibes. I made it to level out the bodyline, I like an XJ with a little bit of a nose-high stance to it. A 32" tire is what I want, but the 235's A/T's I had laying around were in great shape so I threw em on there, and they actually work rather well, and they look like a 30x9.50 on my 15x8 Soft8's lol.

I added you and D-BOI as friends on JF also.:nice:

And... I apologize for the thread hi-jack, although it seems to have worked its way off topic and into an auto-maker battle without my help. :D
 
#40
slick35thgt said:
Thanks. My buddy and I fabbed up the lift one Saturday and it came out very nicely, no death wobble, and if anything rides better than stock, with just a little extra drivetrain vibes. I made it to level out the bodyline, I like an XJ with a little bit of a nose-high stance to it. A 32" tire is what I want, but the 235's A/T's I had laying around were in great shape so I threw em on there, and they actually work rather well, and they look like a 30x9.50 on my 15x8 Soft8's lol.

I added you and D-BOI as friends on JF also.:nice:

And... I apologize for the thread hi-jack, although it seems to have worked its way off topic and into an auto-maker battle without my help. :D
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Nice, got to love when fabbing things up works out that way.

I like the nose up a little bit... that is how I want mine, but it currently sits JUST higher in the back, kind of annoys me.

I added you and D-BOI on JF last night.

Demeted5OH, are you on JF?
 
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