How long does it take to build your credit after getting your first credit card?

Tom95gt

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I just applied for a credit card. I'm 21 almost 22 and still have 0 credit so I guess I'll take the plunge. I really need a new (newer) car and can't find anyone to co-sign with me. So my question is how long will it take for me to be able to get a newer car? I guess to finance... I don't know how this stuff works but I know it's not good :nonono:
 
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The thing about it is that having no credit is along the same lines as having bad credit. When you have bad credit the lenders know your habits, but when you have zero credit they don't know your habits and most of the time don't want to take the chances. My suggestion to you is to get a card with an apr somewhere around 4-8% and have a low limit on it, maybe $300 or $500. Since your looking for a new car, financing it would be your best bet but with a decent down payment. Try and get something that your payments are around $16 for every $1000 financed. Make sure you read that part of the contract's. A lot of dealers will try and give a first time buyer something around $25+ per $1000.

When your signing things or just reading them over, best have someone come with you that is knowledgeable with finances and paperwork. I had a friend of mine come with me when I got my saturn at 18 years old. He had been a dealer himself in the past and got me a wicked deal. Paid $12k for a $19k car and my payments were $194 a month.

Just my 10 cents.
 
Im 23 now got my first card when i was 18... $300 limit i buy things on it and pay it off in almost full every month and use the reward points to go out to dinner or movies with my g/f... Its an American express got a 5k limit.... when i started renting my new place 6 months ago i had a 731 credit score... so i guess that isnt bad for my age...
 
Here's a good one. Acquire school debt, which is good debt. Once you start paying it off, your credit score sky rockets. Remember, the little things help. Paying your utilities on time, having a cell phone account that you pay on time, all that stuff adds up. When I bought my house I had an 800 mean beacon score. I have never had a balance on a credit card, or payed a bill late in my life.

Kurt
 
Im 23 now got my first card when i was 18... $300 limit i buy things on it and pay it off in almost full every month and use the reward points to go out to dinner or movies with my g/f... Its an American express got a 5k limit.... when i started renting my new place 6 months ago i had a 731 credit score... so i guess that isnt bad for my age...

thats a real good credit score for someone our age, kudos to you...

also the duration of ur credit history is key... having a long standing history w/ a company is good. my credits only like 2.5 yrs old or so and im just under a 700 score. one thing to be careful about is, credit cards can certainly get you in trouble. if you max out your availability it hurts ur credit. i think they call it debt to income ratio or something like that
 
Just make sure you do not exceed your credit limit and pay your bills on time, in full if possilbe.

You can use the card for something like gas only at first to get the hang of it.

Keep that up for a few months of payments, and you will raise your score in no time.
 
Why not just buy a car you can afford? Better for you, in the long run.

Credit card companies suck. They're raising fee's and rates on the customers that pay their bills on time and dont carry a balance because they dont make money on them. And if you save all that money that you WOULD pay for finance charges, you'll be VERY rich by the time you're 40.

"Credit" is not all it's cracked up to be. I pay "cash" for everything...the only way to fly.
 
I agree with reddy, but with how today is with damn near everything needing plastic work; it's kinda hard. The best way I was shown how to raise your credit is get a family member or a friend with $5k or $2k to give you a secured loan on. Basically they are giving the bank that money to loan to you. After that you pay that person back the money you got and have them turn the loan over to the bank. Then you just make the payments on-time with 10% on top of the payment. Doing that in a six month span raised my credit from a 531(terrible I know) to a 689. That's in six months. I know most people couldn't do this, but I had my uncle to thank for that. Besides what has been said already, that's another way to raise your credit score.
 
Are you in school now? Like said school/college debt is one way to build history.

You may end up having to start with a secured line of credit with a card from your bank...basically you use money you put into an account and the bank gives you a card with that amount as the limit ($500-1000). One thing about any credit card is to try and keep your balance at around 33% or less of the avail limit. More than that and the debt starts to count against you as you have too much outstanding, it shows you don't just go nuts and buy things.

Cell phones, utility bills, insurance, anything you make payments on will help.

History takes time to build. Keep cards open as closing them will kill that history and in a lot of cases hurt you. Just be smart in how you use them. Try to pay off the balance every month or at least within just a few months.
 
I only have about 2k to my name right now. I'm driving a bronco right now but something goes wrong with it EVERY single day literally and gas is killing me. I am not in school, probably should be. I should sell the trans-am but winter time is bad for selling cars. Maybe the bronco will last just a couple more months so I can sell the trans-am and get my tax return but then again with that much cash i'll probably still be lookin for something better and newer.
 
I only have about 2k to my name right now. I'm driving a bronco right now but something goes wrong with it EVERY single day literally and gas is killing me. I am not in school, probably should be. I should sell the trans-am but winter time is bad for selling cars. Maybe the bronco will last just a couple more months so I can sell the trans-am and get my tax return but then again with that much cash i'll probably still be lookin for something better and newer.

Just a question...when you have a $300-$500 a month car payment and that car starts breaking down on you (usually with a large payoff balance) what are you going to do? Not only will you have a car that is killing you but you'll also have that payment keeping you from fixing it or saving for something better. I would say either trade the Bronco (even up) for a fuel efficient car or fix the Bronco to get better mileage. (You CAN afford to put $300-$500 a month in it, if you can afford a car payment that is that much.) By the time you drop $1500 into even the nastiest old truck, you'll have it working at it's "peak". That's only a few months of what would be a car payment.

My guess is that you just want a different vehicle and are trying to justify it. (We all do that.) Think realistically. If I go buy a good used or (God forbid) new car right now, what's it going to be worth in 5 years? (Prolly nothing.) How much am I going to owe in 3-5 years? (Prolly a lot.) What am I going to do if something starts going wrong with it in 2 years and I'm "upside down" in it? (Likely, for used.)

If you have $2000 in cash, take $1000 and the Bronco and come up with the best car you can buy. Put the other $1000 in an account and "forget" about it. Take the money you would be making on a car payment and put it in the bank for 1 year and THEN go buy a car that you can afford with that money. ($3600-$5000) You wont pay a penny in interest and you will always have cash, in case something goes wrong.

Live below your means. I wish someone had told me this, when I was your age.
 
I had a 90 bronco 5.0 in college...it was KILLING me. Just to go from school to work and to the then girl fiends (now wife) it cost me min of $480 in just gas when it was less than $2.00. I feel your pain. The AOD went out and the rear drive shaft double cardian joint broke at the same time (not sure what made what break). Then the electrical system went to crap.

LIVE by what reddy posted live below your means for one. I would suggest looking for something that is reliable and good on the gas like well maintained mid to late 90's toyota and honda products (cheap and plenty...not because of any import is better montra). I used to buy $1000 cars for the winter and DD to keep from driving the mustang all the time. Sure they are not high end...but when they broke parts are cheap or just walk away from it. One of the best beaters I had was a late 80's Taurus, another bud had a early 90's we both got 30k out of them and one got a rod knock and another had a rod knock and a transmission knock never once left us stranded and we put well over 10k after the knocks appeared. Focus on establishing good habits so when you can afford a new car your not only more likely to handle the payments but also appreciate it.

To many people end up buying more then needed end up feeling trapped and to get away do even more drastic things as some kind of solution. I know a guy who kept trading in and up after not liking what he had/keep up with "trends". Last I heard he had a Tahoe he owed $65k on that was worth $20k and he was trying to buy a vett...but could not afford more than a kia...no one would touch him to have a $40k kia loan.

If the bronco is killing you do what reddy was suggesting.

P.S. I made about $1100-1500 from parting out my bronco.
 
how did you guys find your score? i paid for a credit report once and all it did was show me a list of accounts that i had open.

how do you get the actual 3-digit score?
 
Each of the credit bureaus is required by law to provide you your credit score once a year. I know this sounds phony, but the fastest way to get it is through one of those cheesy online places that advertises on TV. I got mine through freecreditreport.com. The catch on those websites is that they automatically enroll you in a credit protection program that is like $14.99/month. But if you call the number or disenroll online within 10 days, it's free.

Kurt
 
There is a difference between a "credit report" and a "credit score."

Don't pay for the credit report - you get a free one once a year.

https://www.annualcreditreport.com/cra/index.jsp

Here is a link to the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) site talking about the free credit report:

The Federal Trade Commission's Information on Free Annual Credit Reports

This is the site set up by the three credit bureaus as required by law. Just as an FYI, freecreditreport.com, the one that wants you to pay $15 for a monitoring service, is owned, I believe, by one of the very credit bureaus that is required to provide the free report (Experian, I think).

The credit score, on the other hand, is a completely different beast. The credit score is the result of some top secret mathematical calculation performed on the information in your credit report. The most common one is called the FICO.

You get a FICO score for each of the three bureaus' reports. So, you potentially have three different FICO scores. In order to get a FICO score, you must have an account open for 6 months and an account that has been updated in the past six months. And, since there are three bureaus, all three must have this same information for you to have an accurate credit score (for whatever that is worth).

While the FICO score methodology is proprietary, there are some general guidelines that determine how it is calculated. FICO scores are calculated based on your rating in five general categories:

Payment history – 35%
Amounts owed – 30%
Length of credit history – 15%
New credit – 10%
Types of credit used – 10%

Here are some links that relate to the above:

The Simple Dollar How to Safely Build Your Credit History

Credit Score Information: About FICO Scores - myFICO.com

Now, in concluding, I am going to echo something a couple of others have said but in a slightly different manner:

Ask yourself "Do I really need credit to buy a used car?"

Hmmmmmm...

Credit exists for two purposes: to make the banks money and to make the banks more money. Just something to keep in mind. Of course, you are going to have to "pay to play" the game of keeping up with the Jones, but make sure that you fully understand exactly what those costs are before you decide to play.

Suppose you decide to buy a car for $10,000. You have $1,000 to put down and your trade nets you another $1,000. So, you want to borrow $8,000 to get your new used car. Suppose further you get an 8% loan (slightly higher than what some will get, but also significantly lower than what others will - I have seen used vehicle loans with an APR of over 20% - just depends on what your score is).

So, you will pay slightly more than $210 a month for your loan over 48 months. You will pay over $4,000 in interest. So, your $8,000 loan has an actual cost that is 50% higher than its value. As an analogy, this is like paying $3.00 for a one liter Mountain Dew. Would you buy a Mountain Dew for $3.00 when everyone else was paying $1.89????


As an alternative:

Put the $210 a month into the bank. You can find a fairly dependable beater that gets upward of 20 mpg for the $1,000 you were going to put down on the new car. I am thinking (shudder) S10 with a 4 banger and a stick. Poke around, though, and you can find perhaps an older Buick LeSabre or Park Avenue that has a V6. Toyota something or other with a 4 banger. Sure, it ain't gonna be a head turner, but it will drive, get decent mileage, and the like.

Anyhow, your $210 a month quickly builds up. Put it in there for a year and you have $2,500 give or take. Now, if you made the Bronco hobble along, you really have $3,500 in cash (the $1,000 you did not spend plus the $210 a month you've been saving), plus whatever you can sell the Bronco for. So, you have what, $4,000 cash? Now, You can buy a pretty nice used whooper for $4,000 cash, after only a single year. Look for a late 90's Cadillac SLS or STS. I had one of these. I think it was owned by some guy who was half blind. I paid $3,000 for it and put 80,000 miles on it in a year, with no repairs whatsoever. Leather, Bose, heated power seats, etc. Much nicer than the beater. After a year. And its free and clear. You own it. No payment. No interest. No bank leech sucking your life away. And it is prolly gonna take you longer than a year to be able to get a decent rate on a used vehicle loan anyhow.

Or, suppose you never touch the $210 a month you are putting in the bank. You save for 4 years. You drive a beater the whole time. You have over $10,000 at the end of 4 years. So, by not getting the loan, rather than paying out $12,000 plus, you have $10,000. That's a $22,000 dollar choice right there. Not to mention, what if you get a raise over those four years? Suppose you can put in $300 a month after a while? What if you could do $350??

Pay yourself before you pay a bank. Keep in mind tough that for this to work, you have to pay yourself. It is exactly the same as making a car payment. You still have all the other things to pay for, just the payment is going to you, not the bank.

Is getting that shiny car really worth it, especially considering that by the time you are done paying the bank it will be neither shiny nor trendy? You will have exactly the same vehicle, but with the added privilege of having had to pay for the clunker.
 
please listen to reddy351. there is no such thing as "good debt". debt is debt, no matter how you spin it, and it means that other people are getting rich by taking your money.

so many people are in the cycle of either leasing or buying a new car every few years and have car payments for most of their lives that people think it is normal.

think about this for a minute ...

if you start at age 25 and put what most people pay every month for their car (for grins, let's say $250) into a mutual fund that averages 10% growth per year, by the time you are 60, you will have about $950,000. over its history, the market has averaged 12% per year, so i am being conservative with the 10% growth rate. if it averages the 12%, the your total is closer to 1.5 million.

i hope you really like the car.

now think about this: if you have a $1,000 mortgage for 30 years (assume a 6% interest rate), which is fairly typical, you end up paying $360,000 for a $170,000 loan. so the bank gets $190,000 of YOUR money.

so you would be better off pretending like you have a mortgage for 10 years. put $1,000 every month into a mutual fund for 10 years and you will have $200,000. then you don't need to borrow $170,000 for the house any more.

then if you can keep doing the $1,000 per month thing for 20 more years, you will have $750,000 dollars. at the average of 12% per year, it is closer to $990,000.

compound interest is an amazing thing.

now for my situation ... i have a $400,000 mortgage at 4.5%. my mortgage payment is $2,026 per month. had i taken that and invested it for 10 years, i would have had $415,000. then i would have been able to pay cash for the house and could be investing it now. in 20 years (the same time as a 30 year mortgage), i would have 1.5 million by now.

believe me, i'd much rather be sitting on a couple million dollars now. had i done what i am talking about, even just the $250 per month thing, i would be so much better off than i am that it's not even funny. :bang:

live below your means, don't carry debt, don't finance a car, and pay cash for everything. stash a few thousand away for life's emergencies, and invest what you can as early as possible.
 
please listen to reddy351. there is no such thing as "good debt". debt is debt, no matter how you spin it, and it means that other people are getting rich by taking your money.

so many people are in the cycle of either leasing or buying a new car every few years and have car payments for most of their lives that people think it is normal.

think about this for a minute ...

if you start at age 25 and put what most people pay every month for their car (for grins, let's say $250) into a mutual fund that averages 10% growth per year, by the time you are 60, you will have about $950,000. over its history, the market has averaged 12% per year, so i am being conservative with the 10% growth rate. if it averages the 12%, the your total is closer to 1.5 million.

i hope you really like the car.

now think about this: if you have a $1,000 mortgage for 30 years (assume a 6% interest rate), which is fairly typical, you end up paying $360,000 for a $170,000 loan. so the bank gets $190,000 of YOUR money.

so you would be better off pretending like you have a mortgage for 10 years. put $1,000 every month into a mutual fund for 10 years and you will have $200,000. then you don't need to borrow $170,000 for the house any more.

then if you can keep doing the $1,000 per month thing for 20 more years, you will have $750,000 dollars. at the average of 12% per year, it is closer to $990,000.

compound interest is an amazing thing.

now for my situation ... i have a $400,000 mortgage at 4.5%. my mortgage payment is $2,026 per month. had i taken that and invested it for 10 years, i would have had $415,000. then i would have been able to pay cash for the house and could be investing it now. in 20 years (the same time as a 30 year mortgage), i would have 1.5 million by now.

believe me, i'd much rather be sitting on a couple million dollars now. had i done what i am talking about, even just the $250 per month thing, i would be so much better off than i am that it's not even funny. :bang:

live below your means, don't carry debt, don't finance a car, and pay cash for everything. stash a few thousand away for life's emergencies, and invest what you can as early as possible.

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I don't know Chris, I agree in theory... but where do you live while you pile all this cash away? In mom's basement? I finished school in 2005, was living on my own by 2006, then living with my girl till 2009, when we bought a house in January at the age of 25. All while paying down school loans and financing my F150 (paid it off in 13 months though). I definitely want to start a family while I'm in my prime, not when I'm 40. Some people don't mind being a new dad at that age but its not for me. I don't know how you assign a dollar value to that.

Adam
 
i hear ya 100%. when you are young and on your own, being able to squirrel away $1000 a month may very well not be possible. if you are married and both are working, then you have 2 incomes to put into the mix. depending on your lifestyle, you can probably put more away than you might imagine.

when we were young, my wife and i lived in ignorance and did not realize this stuff. we ate out alot and blew our money on lots of useless things.

the main thing i am trying to say is that, to the extent you can, living debt free and saving/investing what you can will pay off BIG TIME in the long run.