So whose getting a 2012 Boss 302?

[FastRedPonyCar]

I honestly thought about it but for $10K more than the premium GT coupe w/brembos and 3.73's, I figured I could easily come close to the non laguna seca boss for far less doing the mods/parts myself.


The upshot to the boss though is that I'm willing to bet it's going to hold its value quite well. The GT will probably have a big depreciation but that's to be expected. The shelby's depreciated far more than I thought they would also...

 

[satx]

I honestly thought about it but for $10K more than the premium GT coupe w/brembos and 3.73's, I figured I could easily come close to the non laguna seca boss for far less doing the mods/parts myself.

Ford has a ton of track development in the Boss (see 302R) which is something you will not be able to replicate just throwing mods at a GT.

 

[FastRedPonyCar]

Ford has a ton of track development in the Boss (see 302R) which is something you will not be able to replicate just throwing mods at a GT.

There are guys who already have. Sam Strano is one of them. there's nothing magical about the boss suspension. It's just re-branded Tokico shocks/struts and I beleive Eibach springs/sways. The Koni sports would have been a better choice.

Those, the steeda springs and the Fays 3 watts rear end would have made a far superior suspension platform.

As for power, the steeda and bama tunes + intake are putting down 400 hp to the wheels without any other supporting mods. What's that, 440, 450 at the flywheel?


Right. You're largely paying for the boss name. The revised intake, cams and cylinder heads, though nice in their own right are still not worth the higher price tag IMO.

$2000 worth of suspension mods and a $750 intake/tune will get a GT around a track quicker than a Boss.

 

[ShipYourCarRich]

I would agree with FastRed, I'd be shocked if you couldn't make a Brembo 5.0 faster than a Boss 5.0 if you put $10k into the Brembo 5.0. Sure Ford invested some engineering and track time into the development of the Boss but so does the entire aftermarket industry. If anything the aftermarket industry is further along than the manufacturers since most manufacturers have pulled out of racing.

If you want the name then the Boss is cool, it's going to be rare so that will keep the resale value up. If having a rare car with a little collectable value is the most important thing then get the Boss. If you just want to go fast (on the street or track) then get the regular 5.0 and mod it with the money your saved, you'll be faster.

 

[GConn007]

Y'all dont take into account that the GT has weaker internals than the Boss. The Boss has real forged internals if I am remembering correctly, different from those on the GT. Plus, im sure it is cammed better....which with double overhead cams is going to be hellacious for the pocket book on the GT. I'm highly considering taking the plunge for the Boss over a GT, even given the additional cost. I wish the color schemes werent so dang ugly for the boss =( Anyways, the resale value for the Boss is going to be great down the road. You can take the additional cash you save and update the GT, or buy the Boss and probably have almost equivalent cars...but years from now, the Boss will be a collector's car.

 

[mustangford289]

Boss

By the time the Boss is a collector car, say in 20 to 30 years, cars running on gasoline will be obsolete or gas will cost 10 dollars a gallon...no one will want one.

If you buy a Boss drive it, enjoy it, run it into the ground then you can tell you grandkids about the good ole days when cars ran on fossil fuel that only cost 3.50 a gallon.

Cars are not investments, just like homes are not investments...

 

[Sparty92]

Cars are not investments, just like homes are not investments...

Amen, Brother.

Drive the wheels off 'em. Put 'em back on...keep on drivin'. Save them for NO ONE!!

 

[satx]

Lol at anyone that thinks Ford just opened up their summit catalog and ordered tokico and eibach parts.

Will it be possible to buy a GT and mod it to outlap the boss? Of course. Will you be able to outlap the boss and have a better street car at the same time... I highly doubt it.

The boss is different than any mustang you have experienced. Anyone posting that you canthrow this or that part on a GT and outlap a boss is going to be in for a rude awakening.

Ford has a TON of tracktime in the development of the Boss...I guess they have been out there testing Stranos autoX setup, lol.

Go price a brembo GT plus supporting track mods like an oil cooler, a real pan, brake ducts etc. Things add up real quick.

I will also bet the Boss will make around 415rwhp. So yes you can bring a GT up to this power level but what will the Boss make with it's basic tune up?

 

[FastRedPonyCar]

I imagine the guys who will drive their cars like the boss was designed to be driven will not buy bosses but rather GT's and mod them beyond what the boss comes with.

Edit: I would. But since I have no intent of tracking my car with enough frequency to necessitate thousands of dollars of suspension/brake/etc work, it's not worth it to me personally.

 

[beefcake]

we've got an orange with recaro's on order, should be pretty sweet,

when i say we, i mean the dealership i work for

 

[karagannis112]

I would only buy the boss if it could be held as a second car.

 

[karagannis112]

BTW I dont mean that you should baby it by any means, I think you should enjoy. Dont get me wrong.

 

[M3hunter]

How much over sticker are dealers asking for the Boss? I won't buy a car unless I get it for less than sticker. That's why I did not buy a 2007 Shelby GT my dealer wanted $10,000 more than sticker for. He was surprised at how difficult it was to sell and didn't order the second one he was entitled to buy.
I would have given him a reasonable profit (still under sticker) but I guess some would rather not make a few bucks if they can't make a lot.

I think I'm on the same channel. I really was wating and waiting for the BOSS to come out, but after reading on Motortrend about the M3 VS '11 GT, (that almost they where even on the track), immediately I went to buy a '11 GT Brembo w/.the 3.73. Now that the BOSS is comming out I'm still tempted, but also what keeps me back is the low amount of production of the bOSS plus the posibility of close to $10,000 mark up price by deallers who will try to make a big deal of it.

 

[07_427r]

Looking forward to seeing one, have no intention of buying one. I have the car I need to enjoy myself, its paid for and will last me many years to come. My car like many past years stangs are well below the power curve of todays and tomorrow's models but I'm not into chasing HP or the latest and greatest. If I was in the market of a Stang I would buy a GT500.

 

[DaveSVT2000]

I've got a silver LS at sticker on order, second quarter build, should be here in june.

 

[FLGator]

And don't forget, if you want to be able to use the "Red key" that is a dealer/FRPP upgrade that you will need to have installed and pay for at the dealership. As far as I know, Ford is not adding the second program to the ECU.

 

[YELLOW42RCODE]

And don't forget, if you want to be able to use the "Red key" that is a dealer/FRPP upgrade that you will need to have installed and pay for at the dealership. As far as I know, Ford is not adding the second program to the ECU.

That is correct.

 

[MrBonus]

I have a black/red LS on order for 2Q delivery. I do plan to track it regularly. I certainly prefer the idea of a Ford engineered car as compared to trying to put mismatched aftermarket suspension components together for a track car.

 

[Cook89Notch]

When will Revell have a plastic glue together model? That's when I *might* get one...

~Matt.

 

[Dig-It]

I was able to order one from a local dealer for sticker price. Picked it up last Tuesday - sweet power, handling and sound. I'm already signed up to take her out to Superfest at VIR in May. I can't wait to see what this thing will do on the track!