Ok, ty Bryan. I am sure my exhaust hangs lower then that. I tried flipping the quad shocks, had a shop remove them with their fancy air wrenches, but the body of the stock quads will rub on the body of a stock shock. The nitto 315's just barely fit but the MT's rub on drivers side. So I'm hoping with a stronger control arm I can just ditch them, but on the other hand they are almost new and if they fit when flipped with an aftermarket shock, then i'll put them back on.