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...Stock Rod Nationals are in town this weekend and there's tons of cruisin and showin off goin on. Saw this tonight: 2000 Cobra R, #2 of 300. 23 miles on the odometer.

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if I had the$$ around to pry one of these from the owner it would go from 23 miles to 500 miles before the first few days were over.. love that car but I would want to drive it not stare at it. 23 miles on a 2k is like 2mi a year.. That's muscle car neglect! :)
 
That's a nice piece there, my dreams consist of cars like that. One day in the not so near future, I would like to have the money to touch one of those... Shoot, if he brings it to my house, I can put a lot more than 2x miles on it.. what a beauty.
 
if I had the$$ around to pry one of these from the owner it would go from 23 miles to 500 miles before the first few days were over.. love that car but I would want to drive it not stare at it. 23 miles on a 2k is like 2mi a year.. That's muscle car neglect! :)

For what he's asking for it, you could probably build your own clone for about half the price. No sense dishing out copious amount of mone and ruining a collectable, if all you want is a driver. :shrug:
 
For what he's asking for it, you could probably build your own clone for about half the price. No sense dishing out copious amount of mone and ruining a collectable, if all you want is a driver. :shrug:

Maybe you didn't see the picture. It's a track car, not a porcelain figurine. The thing that makes that car desirable is how it was designed to perform on a road course, not how it brightens up a rusty trailer while propping up a perennial "For Sale" sign.

I fail to see how a car is "ruined" by driving. Funny enough, that's actually what they were designed to do.

If I wanted a showpiece that would never see the track, I'd just build it from a V6 for FAR less than half the price. What difference does the engine make if it is never going to be started?

If I wanted a Cobra R, the last thing I'd buy is a car that hadn't moved under its own power in years. I'd expect a huge discount for one that apparently hasn't run since the day it was new.
 
I wouldn't drive it on the track, if I were dumb enough to buy one. Another American car that came out in 01 and beat it for less money, with AC, a radio, etc while getting close to 30mpg. That car is a collector car, and was never a great track car, especially after you paid the dealer markup.

Sweet car that would look good in a collector's garage. Build a replica for half the price and smoke it in every category(except the boss intake is impossible to find)
 
Maybe you didn't see the picture. It's a track car, not a porcelain figurine. The thing that makes that car desirable is how it was designed to perform on a road course, not how it brightens up a rusty trailer while propping up a perennial "For Sale" sign.

I fail to see how a car is "ruined" by driving. Funny enough, that's actually what they were designed to do.

If I wanted a showpiece that would never see the track, I'd just build it from a V6 for FAR less than half the price. What difference does the engine make if it is never going to be started?

If I wanted a Cobra R, the last thing I'd buy is a car that hadn't moved under its own power in years. I'd expect a huge discount for one that apparently hasn't run since the day it was new.
Yeah, I saw the picture. So what? In late-1999, when they hit the circuit for the racers of that era to buy up and run hard, they were a bad ass track car. Now.....13-years later, with only 23-miles on the odometer, it's rarity and collectability fully realized and the sad fact that bolt on, full weight S197 are capable of handing it it's ass on the track and on the street, it is a little more than a collector....PERIOD! I mean…a mid-50’s Porsche 550 Spyder was a nifty track car back in the day as well, but you wouldn’t be out driving the hell out if it on the weekends would you? And there were more of them built than the Cobra R.

I mean, sure your average Joe could daily drive it, take it to the track and get their tail handed to them at every event by every late model Saleen, Roush and GT out there (not to mention countless performers from other manufacturers), ruining the car in the process. Society has a name for that type of person....they're called morons. :)
 
Yeah, I saw the picture. So what? In late-1999, when they hit the circuit for the racers of that era to buy up and run hard, they were a bad ass track car. Now.....13-years later, with only 23-miles on the odometer, it's rarity and collectability fully realized and the sad fact that bolt on, full weight S197 are capable of handing it it's ass on the track and on the street, it is a little more than a collector....PERIOD! I mean…a mid-50’s Porsche 550 Spyder was a nifty track car back in the day as well, but you wouldn’t be out driving the hell out if it on the weekends would you? And there were more of them built than the Cobra R.

I am not so sure about that. Keep in mind that the cobra r went toe to toe with the zo6 and did a damn good job at it IMOP. Those older zo6s are still holding their own on road courses so its safe to say that this car would still do very well. No it wasnt the best car in the world but its no slouch. Yes the new cars handle very well but I dont think that the differance in lap times would be all that big and am willing to bet that the 00 R would beat out your standard run of the mill 2005-11 GT even with the handling pack I think the 00 R would edge one out.
 
I am not so sure about that. Keep in mind that the cobra r went toe to toe with the zo6 and did a damn good job at it IMOP. Those older zo6s are still holding their own on road courses so its safe to say that this car would still do very well. No it wasnt the best car in the world but its no slouch. Yes the new cars handle very well but I dont think that the differance in lap times would be all that big and am willing to bet that the 00 R would beat out your standard run of the mill 2005-11 GT even with the handling pack I think the 00 R would edge one out.

The Cobra R was a gutted race car with no AC or radio. It also got waxed by the C5Z, and was almost twice as much after dealer markup. It's a neat car, but this one belongs in a collector garage.
 
I'm sorry, but no. If you're talking about using this car to run your kids to school, go pick up some groceries, and drive 700 miles to visit the family for Christmas, then no you don't deserve it. That's not what it was made for. What it WAS made for, is to go race at a track and have a blast in. It wasn't built to be some rare collectible Mustang that was hoarded for years.

Trading a car around for years just to keep it's value defeats its purpose. Cars like this are meant to be fun. I'm all about the collectability of cars, but I'd rather lose a few bucks by enjoying it once in awhile than hiding it in a garage to squeeze out every last cent.
 
I'm thinking letting any "Rare" vehicle just sit in any non-climate controlled room is just asking for problems.

Some car-parts are perishable when just sitting around, (any hydroscopic fluid needs to be changed very frequently, and rubber and vynal tends to crumble over time.) Not to mention the greased incased in rubber car parts, those things really do have a shelf life.

At this point in the cars life; if the owner dosn't want to start replacing parts is just keep it as a collectable, in spite of the original intention of Ford for the vehicle. Only 300 made?! Maybe just a strictly a show car and kept in a "show room" floor.

Making a reproduction to exact "specs" would be the fiscally smarter action(if you must drive a Cobra-R,) in my opinon. Unless someone can afford to start lighting 100 dollar bills on fire for cigar use.

O.p. any idea on how and where the Cobra-R was kept? Garage kept wouldn't be enough for that rare of a vehicle.