Help Me Figure Out What I Broke at the Track Today

Thats a bummer, and look forward to seeing the car rise back up with the new motor. How will your blower on PI heads will work though :shrug: I though the NPI and PI have different ports?

If you don't mind sharing, who was the tuner?

It will work fine on the PI heads. Lots of guys on the TCCoA board have done it. The only difference is the water jacket port. It's shaped slightly different on one corner, so I'll either have to have part of the blower port welded up or just use some RTV similar to when putting a PI intake on NPI heads.

I don't want it to turn into a bashing, but it was Fastlane Motorsports down in Benson, NC. I simply think there wasn't enough time spent on my most recent tune. I had/have a pretty unique setup, with the non-intercooled blower, methanol, cams, auto tranny, etc., that requires a little more attention to detail than your typical supercharged 4.6. I can't complain much because the car ran freakin' great for a year and a half on their tune, and laid down some dang impressive times for the mods.

AND, it's very possible that the motor was already hurt before the cams/new tune/most recent track event, and that one little bit of detonation was just the straw that broke the camel's back. I suspect we'll never know.

Either retard the cams 2 degrees back to 110 ICL with a stock PI head, or better yet pull the heads, get a set of modified intake valves, and run them at the 108ICL. Stock PI springs will be fine. I believe the PI intake gaskets will work on that combo, need to check the water crossover shape in the intake/blower itself.

So it ran faster even with a broken piston.................

Since the objective is to not spend any more money than I have to, I'll probably just retard it back the couple of degrees.

What kind of RPM are the stock springs good for with those cams? I'm thinking with the PI heads, the optimum shift points will be up in the 6300 range, but I wasn't sure if the valvetrain was good for that or not.

And yes, it seems it may have picked up 3 mph in the 1/8 on a hurt motor, haha.

:Damnit:

May I suggest a new tuner, Piedmont Customs Motorsports, 10 minutes from NC State. 5 minutes from where I am located, without traffic. They are on Facebook. Give them a ring. Did my valve-job, them guys are "sick" with Mustangs. Trust me.

That's who I'm planning on going to. A good friend of mine with a nitrous '01 Bullitt has had a lot of work done there, and he has had nothing but great things to say about PCM. It's also where tank567 has his tuning done, and where his brother works. I've been up there a few times, and have been impressed by those guys each time.

And in case you didn't know, there is a dyno day later this month on the 29th at PCM if you are interested in going. I originally planned on throwing my car on the rollers again, but I very seriously doubt I'll have it back together by then. I'll be there either way.
 
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I wouldnt run PI heads. I would just have your motor rebuilt to run the NPI blower. You can always run HPS NPI-PI adaptor plates. I had a set and they are VERY nice quality. Hand port matched.
 
I wouldnt run PI heads. I would just have your motor rebuilt to run the NPI blower. You can always run HPS NPI-PI adaptor plates. I had a set and they are VERY nice quality. Hand port matched.

It would cost at least twice as much to rebuild it than drop a new PI motor in. Plus, I'd still be stuck with the NPI heads. I'll bet that it picks up a TON of power from the extra exhaust port flow, which is what's really important with a blower.

The NPI and PI version of the SVO blower is exactly the same other than the ports. Because the NPI ports on the blower are actually smaller than the PI ports on the heads, there will be 0 restriction on the intake side of the heads. The only problem is the water jacket, which doesn't exactly match up. As I mentioned earlier, I'll either have part of the blower welded up or just RTV it like with a PI manifold swap.
 
That's who I'm planning on going to. A good friend of mine with a nitrous '01 Bullitt has had a lot of work done there, and he has had nothing but great things to say about PCM. It's also where tank567 has his tuning done, and where his brother works. I've been up there a few times, and have been impressed by those guys each time.

And in case you didn't know, there is a dyno day later this month on the 29th at PCM if you are interested in going. I originally planned on throwing my car on the rollers again, but I very seriously doubt I'll have it back together by then. I'll be there either way.

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Damn, Will. Sorry to hear about this.

I'd run the stock cams in the new PI motor, up the boost, get a new tuner and spray that meth. I only suggest this, again, since I had my tuner read this thread tonight with me and was once a modular 2v guy. Screw the Meth/water mix. Get the car tuned and then run strait M1 through it. It will take your tuner 5-10 pulls to get is sorted out, but it is not hard. My tuner doesn't even tune Fords, but has tune a few GT500's and high HP Ford GT's with meth and stock cams, with great success, not to mention the 100+blower GM cars.
 
What kind of RPM are the stock springs good for with those cams? I'm thinking with the PI heads, the optimum shift points will be up in the 6300 range, but I wasn't sure if the valvetrain was good for that or not.

And yes, it seems it may have picked up 3 mph in the 1/8 on a hurt motor, haha.


With those cams and figuring 10lbs of boost max you should be fine for near 6500RPM. I would swap the cams and install for 110ICL, it will be a fun cheap motor.