12 or 13 v6 perf pkg?

scargoz

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Looking very closely at getting a V6 base with the performance
package only.

I have looked at a few dealers in the DC area. With the new car
buying process come a lot of "depends" and fees etc. in trying to
find the end price (out the door, including tax tags fees) of a
car. Not very much like ordering a computer online ...

One very cool place lists the '12 and '13 cars very close OTD price,
with the '12 only $88 less than the '13. The pricing is not
"final-final" but the best out the door for both was about $25,000. I
thought the difference would be wider - e.g. thinking that a
big price edge would flush out the stock of '12 model year, but I
think I am mistaken.

Ug - so, I like the grabber blue best :) GHIG is very nice, DIB
is better than Kona, but not as good as Vista (IMHO), no sign of
orange.

The butt of the '13 is much nicer. The '12 wheels and the lower
rocker being black look nicer as a combo than the wheels and body
colored rocker on the '13 ... but, for a car that is a year "newer"
it seems the '13 is the way to go, and a grabber blue '12 is pretty
much impossible to get (a local has several V6 PP, none grabber).

Head spinning ... need words of wisdom ... then down the road the
axle back, and cai ...

Thanks!
 
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I would love to buy a '12 GT (Grabber blue!). I'm getting quoted $28,000 out
the door for a base model GT - no options. That is $4k more than the V6
pricing ... but for $24K out the door ... add some Brembro style wheels
(like those a lot) and proper exhaust!
 
the best words of wisdom I can give is never buy a car on the weekend, that is when most ppl are looking. Try to do it on a work day, preferably 10-2. You can often find better deals, because due to low demand at the time of day they seem to work better on getting a deal. Now with that said, it all comes down to what the dealer wants to do to make a sale. I'll end with this my MSRP on my mustang was 38.5K, I was able to get 5K knocked off of it, so they got some wiggle room. It was like 33.7K (not OTD) when I was ready to start signing my life away.
 
Mods would be limited - cai, exhasut - noise is good (Saves lives!). I just
want to drive and enjoy. Some more mods would be ok - there is no substitute
for Cubic Inches - but, wheels/tires would be cool. A GT the v6 perfpkg is not, but
I appreciate its cool!
 
I would love to buy a '12 GT (Grabber blue!). I'm getting quoted $28,000 out
the door for a base model GT - no options. That is $4k more than the V6
pricing ... but for $24K out the door ... add some Brembro style wheels
(like those a lot) and proper exhaust!

Here's my one argument for getting a GT that excludes performance. GT's will ALWAYS have a higher resale value. Always. They hold their value better, no two ways about it. That extra money you are spending is not money lost, because you will recoup most, maybe all, or even more than the difference if and when you decide to sell it.

However, if I can throw in a little performance incentive... that is a 12 second car for $28k, which is damn near theft. Do it.
 
I'm not a huge car guy and am learning as I go (hence me on this site and my first post. However, since you said you're looking in the DC area, I thought I'd chime in. I just bought a 2012 V6 premium Mustang from sheehy in Gaithersburg. The only reason I went with the 12 over the 13 is they have 0% APR for up to five years. That really helps keep the payments down and saves you a lot in the long run. It may even mean you can splurge a little with extra features or to get that GT. and that place was dead during the weekday. I think all the attention on me helped the haggle process.

Again, not too much help, but since you said you were looking in the DC area I thought I'd thrown my minimally helpful .02
 
Here's my one argument for getting a GT that excludes performance. GT's will ALWAYS have a higher resale value. Always. They hold their value better, no two ways about it. That extra money you are spending is not money lost, because you will recoup most, maybe all, or even more than the difference if and when you decide to sell it.

However, if I can throw in a little performance incentive... that is a 12 second car for $28k, which is damn near theft. Do it.

hey bro, that extra money you get back? yeah, thats cause you spend more up front.
 
If the GT comes up somewhere at 24, or 25, it would be worth
it ... at $28 - that is $3K. Or, new laptops for the kids, Mrs, and
a new 42" TV and a nice dinner out. That is a lot of cash. Ever try to
bum $50 bux off a friend? Gotta think of it as real money you are
taking out of your pocket. I'm sure there is a monthly cost too ..

Hopefully I remain calm, think V6 Perf, and don't have some sort
of episode and off and buy a GT 'vert/brembro/premium.

Stopped by a Ford place on the way home. They had a v6 plain
in Gotta Have it Green. Sweet! Looks great in the cloudy sky. Real
good. In direct sun, less good, but good.

Would like to see the Grabber Blue right next to it ...

They V6 Perf Pkg they did have ('13, red) I noted has different
mufflers than the GTs ('12, and '13) ... odd?
 
hey bro, that extra money you get back? yeah, thats cause you spend more up front.

Wow, thank you for that thoughtful insight. Obviously you spend more up front, I was aware of that fact when he stated the GT was $3k more. The point I was making was that $3k is not money lost because the GT will be worth more in resale, which means that extra money doesn't just vanish, it is kept as an investment in the car. I feel like I already got that point across, but maybe you don't understand investing. You should look into it. Bro.

If the GT comes up somewhere at 24, or 25, it would be worth
it ... at $28 - that is $3K. Or, new laptops for the kids, Mrs, and
a new 42" TV and a nice dinner out. That is a lot of cash. Ever try to
bum $50 bux off a friend? Gotta think of it as real money you are
taking out of your pocket. I'm sure there is a monthly cost too ..

Hopefully I remain calm, think V6 Perf, and don't have some sort
of episode and off and buy a GT 'vert/brembro/premium.

Stopped by a Ford place on the way home. They had a v6 plain
in Gotta Have it Green. Sweet! Looks great in the cloudy sky. Real
good. In direct sun, less good, but good.

Would like to see the Grabber Blue right next to it ...

They V6 Perf Pkg they did have ('13, red) I noted has different
mufflers than the GTs ('12, and '13) ... odd?

This is a perfect example of using that money as an investment. Instead of blowing money on a new TV or a nice dinner out, you put that money into a GT, which you ultimately get back in higher resale values, instead of pissing it away on other things. You're not gaining or losing anything, simply setting that money aside to be returned when you sell/trade the car. A $3k difference will be approximately $60/mo difference on a 5 year loan.

However, when it comes down to it, do whatever makes you happy. Don't listen to me preach about how to use your money, because nothing I say really matters when it comes to you being satisfied with your car. That doesn't mean I won't advise you, but who am I? Just some ******* on the internet. Do what makes you happy.
 
Wow, thank you for that thoughtful insight. Obviously you spend more up front, I was aware of that fact when he stated the GT was $3k more. The point I was making was that $3k is not money lost because the GT will be worth more in resale, which means that extra money doesn't just vanish, it is kept as an investment in the car. I feel like I already got that point across, but maybe you don't understand investing. You should look into it. Bro.

i thought you were recommending the GT based on its higher resale value (which, as you mentioned, is washed out by its higher cost vs its higher resale value). if you didn't mean to recommend the GT based on its higher resale value then i apologize for misunderstanding you :)

i just got married and my car was recently totalled so we need to replace the old mustang soon. if i'm to get a mustang (which i really want) it has to be practical and to me practical is around 20 grand. the amount of fun i'd get from having a GT doesn't outweigh the amount of fun i'd have from not spending the extra money on initial and day to day cost (fuel, insurance, etc).
 
I appreciate the discussion. Having either would
be awesome. The way I might look at it ...

Keep the car till death (of the car). They should both last about
the same amount of time.

Assumption. The difference is $3000. It is $4000.

Extend the $4000 at 2% interest is $70/month, or
$840/year, or $4200 for 5 years.

Take $40/month, put it in a 2% savings account (or other more
wise investment) that is about $4400.

Recurring cost.

At 3mpg difference, and 15K miles per year, and
regular more than this examples 3.75/gallon. That is a difference of $400
per year IF the V8 is 19mpg, and the V6 is 22mpg. $400/year,
$33/month.

Add the minimal gas savings, and the monthly savings, do a monthly
$103 contribution to a 2% account ... That is about $6500.

After 5 years -- maybe the car will be declared "dead" or you will be
ready to move on in 5 more years.
V6 - still producing $33/month savings to invest, another
$2,000.

Can we predict a base model '12GT used value would be $8,500 greater
than the '13V6 performance package value in 10 years?

Then, if you realize there is not $4000 in your pocket to hand to the
nice salesperson ... you might feel a good level of happy ... and the balance
of happy/$/Mustang is what is all about (A used Escort would probably
be best move financially - in 15 years you could take the $'s build a
garage mahal for the 2028GT in the color of your choice!
 
After 5 years -- maybe the car will be declared "dead" or you will be
ready to move on in 5 more years.
V6 - still producing $33/month savings to invest, another
$2,000.

Confusing - so, if you keep the car 10 years total ... you have another $2000
gas savings (of course, the price of gas will not go up, but continue to fall
back into the $3/gallon range).
 
All true! However, I was strictly speaking in terms of resale value. A lot of people look at the extra cost of the GT as money lost, so I like to make the argument that higher resale values offset that money up front, so you really aren't losing anything. If you're also concerned about fuel economy instead of performance, then the V6 is the obvious choice!

The last thing on my mind is fuel economy, so you'll get no V6 love from me there. I am much more concerned with smiles per mile. ;)