It's unbelievable what you can get these days. I saw an 8 second Outlaw car go for $16K not long ago. It cost over $100K to build one of those.
Kurt
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I Was Offered This In Trade For My 94 Cobra...
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I will be looking at the car this Friday. If by chance we do make a deal, the engine would be getting pulled, built, and put into something more to my liking. There are all kinds of Mustang rollers available these days.
So you're going to pull the motor... rebuild the motor... then put the motor into another roller?
Yeah... this doesn't sound like the car for you then. Seems like it would be a TON easier to just build a motor then put it into whatever roller you wanted.
What you're talking about doesn't make any sense to me... I mean, why bother if the end item will only have the original block casting, heads, and what... intake? Very round-about way to build a motor.
1990Coupe
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I agree on the leakyness, but dropping the top on a fox vert is far from a "major affair". I have a two friends who have them, no issues dropping the tops.
This doesn't make any sense financially or time wise, or anything. There is nothing particularly special about that engine. You can get a 4 bolt main block used on Corral for like $1000.
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When I say "build" the engine, I mean swap out the heads, cam, probably the intake, and add some kind of forced induction; the internals are forged and good to go. How much would it cost to build a Boss or Dart based engine comparable to what this one is? Ford Racing sells a Boss based 302 kit for around $2700 that still needs to be machined and assembled, plus the cost of the rest of the parts to finish the build. I really don't see how it would be easier or cheaper to build one outright.
I dunno man... It's still just an OEM block, isn't it? Built short blocks get sold all the time.
I think everyone is swapping to the Dart block now. The Boss block has a uniqueness that makes it expensive to build.
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No, it is not an OEM block. It is a Boss based crate engine. The last time I checked, Boss or Dart blocks weren't that cheap. Sure, Corral has a few 4 bolt blocks for sale, but most of them need machine work, plus the rotating assembly, plus everything else.
Ahh... that does make a little bit of a difference I guess. Still seems like a long way around to getting just the motor you want unless you intend it to make in excess of 500 crank HP.
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I have a low mileage 302 sitting in the garage that I was going to stroke out and drop into my Cobra but I will still be limited by the OEM block, so it really doesn't make sense to do it when I can swap out the heads and cam on the Cobra engine and get close to 500 hp at the tires. The thing is that I want to make more than 500 to the tires.
I am just thinking out loud here, but let's say that I trade my car for that Fox plus $3000 cash. I could pull the engine that is in it and swap it out for the one in my garage. That car would be put up for sale and let's say I get $4000 out of it. Now I would be sitting on a Boss crate engine plus around $7000 cash. Sure, it is all hypothetical, but if it worked out that way it seems like it wouldn't be a bad deal. However, I am getting way ahead of myself. I haven't seen the car yet, much less verified that it is an actual Boss crate engine, and the guy hasn't offered me anything.
I am just thinking out loud here, but let's say that I trade my car for that Fox plus $3000 cash. I could pull the engine that is in it and swap it out for the one in my garage. That car would be put up for sale and let's say I get $4000 out of it. Now I would be sitting on a Boss crate engine plus around $7000 cash. Sure, it is all hypothetical, but if it worked out that way it seems like it wouldn't be a bad deal. However, I am getting way ahead of myself. I haven't seen the car yet, much less verified that it is an actual Boss crate engine, and the guy hasn't offered me anything.
How much does he want for the FOX without trade or anything? If he was to sell it what is he asking for it?
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Well, I checked out the car. It is just as clean in person as it looks in the pictures. Unfortunately, I don't think it has a Boss block. It does have screw-in freeze plugs, but there is no ID number on the block anywhere that I can find.
InMyPrimeSVT
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Just now saw this thread, but I wouldn't have done it anyways. I've owned a Fox vert and they have waaay to many creeks and noises than the SNs. The SNs are so much better. And as was said, the Fox verts ALWAYS leak.
1990Coupe
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Meh, those creeks and stuff add character. lol. You think people who own mustang's older then foxes don't have the same? If it was a DD then no, But for a weekend toy? Why the hell not? More and more people these days want clean examples of foxes, not so much SN cars. Their value is ever so slightly rising. You'd (in most cases) fetch more for the fox in a sale then an SN.
...and if you don't believe that... Look at all the SNs that are sitting on used car lots these days. You can't throw a rick without hitting one. The only cars still fetching decent prices are the Cobras and even they've been coming down a lot lately. S197s are finally taking their toll.
