Turbo Question
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They are reasonable to tune now depending on what tuning system you use. You can only go so big on the injectors with a stock computer before you have to switch to a complete stand alone system, but it won't be an issue with 12 psi. I think SCT offers a dynotune setup for around $600, mail order for under $300.
When I say it will probably be ok, don't expect miracles. Blown head gaskets and such do happen.
Kurt
When I say it will probably be ok, don't expect miracles. Blown head gaskets and such do happen.
Kurt
99FiveOh
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Yeah that turbo is huge! It's going to be slow to spool but once it's starts spinning hang on... will be like Supra sling shots I see on Youtube all the time!!
As far as your motor it will be just fine IF it's tuned properly. I can't stress this enough, TUNE TUNE TUNE!!! I am running 15 psi through a stock long block and haven't lifted a head gasket yet. It's because my tuner is one of the best in the country and is probably THE BEST at tuning 94/95's in my part of the country.
Self tuning is something I'd like to get into myself but I don't fully understand it yet. Until I do I'll leave the tuning to a professional. If this is your first go round with boost, I recommend you take it in somewhere and have it dyno tuned. Once/if you decide to tune yourself you can get the tune pulled off the SCT chip and made available for you to tweak with a Quarter Horse or other similar tuning system.
As far as your motor it will be just fine IF it's tuned properly. I can't stress this enough, TUNE TUNE TUNE!!! I am running 15 psi through a stock long block and haven't lifted a head gasket yet. It's because my tuner is one of the best in the country and is probably THE BEST at tuning 94/95's in my part of the country.
Self tuning is something I'd like to get into myself but I don't fully understand it yet. Until I do I'll leave the tuning to a professional. If this is your first go round with boost, I recommend you take it in somewhere and have it dyno tuned. Once/if you decide to tune yourself you can get the tune pulled off the SCT chip and made available for you to tweak with a Quarter Horse or other similar tuning system.
99FiveOh
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i live in texas so would i have to drive all the way to florida or is there other ways to get it tuned?
99FiveOh
10 Year Member
I can't say I've ever seen a turbo kit just "slapped" on. 
Be prepared for the cost of completing the kit as well as supporting mods necessary to complete this "slapping".
Be prepared for the cost of completing the kit as well as supporting mods necessary to complete this "slapping".
Man that turbo is huge, a smaller one will be more efficient.
Just a quick note on getting the car tuned. My work colleague is installing a Vortech on his Mustang this weekend. His motor has 104,000 miles, he's putting an 8psi kit on. He called around for dyno tuning prices. Steeda and another shop told him NO because of the high mileage. Even though you sign a waiver that the tuner is not at fault just slapping a turbo or blower on isn't as easy anymore. Some tuning shops that don't do the install themselves may pass. People are lawsuit happy.
Just a quick note on getting the car tuned. My work colleague is installing a Vortech on his Mustang this weekend. His motor has 104,000 miles, he's putting an 8psi kit on. He called around for dyno tuning prices. Steeda and another shop told him NO because of the high mileage. Even though you sign a waiver that the tuner is not at fault just slapping a turbo or blower on isn't as easy anymore. Some tuning shops that don't do the install themselves may pass. People are lawsuit happy.
99FiveOh
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Are you serious? They refused him for 104,000 miles? That motor is just broken in!! If it's not smoking or knocking put some boost on it. My car loves the 15 psi I'm pushing through it and it's just fine because it's tuned right. A tuner that is afraid to tune an 8 psi kit on a 104,000 car doesn't need to be in business. That is NOT high mileage!!!!
And if you sign a waiver, you waive all rights to compensation if something breaks. That's the entire point. And a Vortech kit on our cars really is just "slapped on". A turbo is a bit more involved I'll give you that!
And if you sign a waiver, you waive all rights to compensation if something breaks. That's the entire point. And a Vortech kit on our cars really is just "slapped on". A turbo is a bit more involved I'll give you that!
Yup, I was very surprised Steeda told him no. I won't mention the other Companies but you would know them. The waiver does dismiss the tuner. Guess the shops are tired of the consequences of home installed parts.
You have your standards, we have our's. We are not approaching our 25th anniversary while many other companies have gone out of business by accident. A car that age can have all kinds of hidden issues that once you get into them people expect you to deal with for next to nothing or simply can't deal with because they did not plan for it in their budget, then the car ends up tying up your shop for a lot longer than planned dealing with the little issues that need to be handled to get the job right in the first place.
We've seen that too many times, and it is simply not a pleasant experience for us or the customer, so sometimes we choose to avoid certain jobs because of it and concentrate on those things that keep us around and in business.
99FiveOh
10 Year Member
Then would you care to explain to me why you refused this guy's car without even laying eyes on it? My car has over 200k miles, doesn't smoke, has good compression and I'm pumping 15 psi down it's throat. Tony Gonyon tuned my car (Tuner's Inc formerly HP-Performance in orange park) and he did a great job. He didn't even ask how many miles were on the motor. He saw that it was in good working order and just tuned it. Shops like yours seem to only be interested in "Easy" tuning, where you plug in a tuner and let it do the work while dynoing the results. People like Tony Gonyon have mastered the art of tuning and can tune anything from old carb'd cars to the latest fuel injection setups.
Do you guys even tune 87-95 Mustangs at all?
I don't blame any shop that declines tuning a car that they haven't worked on before. I've personally seen some extremely poor installs before. If a tuner makes a mistake because of a part that wasn't installed correctly who will be blamed? Who's reputation is on the line? It's hit or miss so being picky is probably a good plan.
99FiveOh
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What is the other company? If you can't say here PM me. I like to know who is good out there and who to stay away from.
Diablosport in Delray passed but only because they do later models. Mustang Specialities in Pompano, well he got the runaround there, never got a call back. Since the list was dwindling he was going to travel to a few hours away. Long story short he's got an appointment on Monday with Steve @ Thunder Autosports in West Palm Beach.
99FiveOh
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Let us know how that goes! I just can't stand when tuning shops turn away people for stupid reasons. It really shows their incompetence! I mean seriously, how many cars made 04 and prior have less than 100k miles on them? What we have here is the refusal of shops to learn how to tune OBD 1 cars. You can't simply load up a generic tune into them like you can the newer cars.
Now I am in no way trying to bash Steeda, they're products and customer service is second to none. I called a few weeks ago asking about why my firewall adjuster keeps getting stuck. The guy told me if I couldn't fix it he'd send me a new one free of charge and I've had it for a few years too! But turning a guy away site unseen is just BS!
Now I am in no way trying to bash Steeda, they're products and customer service is second to none. I called a few weeks ago asking about why my firewall adjuster keeps getting stuck. The guy told me if I couldn't fix it he'd send me a new one free of charge and I've had it for a few years too! But turning a guy away site unseen is just BS!
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