Notchback's Aye Or Nay?

A couple of companies out there (Kenny Brown, Maximum Motorsports, etc) still make bolt on rear strut tower braces for the Fox bodies. They're not a cure all, but they'll help to some degree. More so on a hatch back than a coupe. A roll cage pretty much solves all of your flex issues. :D



Three attachment points are better than no attachment points. While I agree that a hatch isn't going to stop the flex, it will reduce it to some degree. Ever grab an old suit case, or lunch box by opposite corners and twist back and forth while it was open? Now close the lid (that's held on with two hinges and a latch, much like the Mustang) and give it a try. Not quite as easy is it.

For however flimsy the car remains with the steel hatch, it will be even more so with the fiberglass one on there. At least the steel hatch itself holds a more rigid shape. Add a fiberglass...or even worse yet, a fiberglass hatch with a lexan window and you might as well just be running none at all.

Besides....when reducing weight, the last play I'd want to take it off is over the back wheels of a car that's already got a reputation for getting "squirrely" when the power is on. :D

The problem with that analogy is that the top half of that lunchbox is adding an equal amount of it's own torsional rigidity to your overall ability to twist said item. The hatch on the Mustang would be the equivalent of bolting a piece of cardboard in place of the lunchbox lid and then expecting it to have some significant impact on your ability to twist the box.

I suppose I can conceded that the hatch will offer some sort of resistance, but the effect is so negligible that it is in all practical purposes non-existent. But, we will just have to agree to disagree on this effect because neither of us can produce any numbers to prove it one way or the other.

The weight savings aren't in so bad a spot as you think. The weight of the hatch is quite high up on the car which is bad from a handling perspective. Given the percentage change in front to rear bias from the slightly less than 20 lbs you save from going to fiberglass from steel, I think it is still a net gain. Plus, as I've always said, you can always add ballast down low if you want more weight on the rear. Of course, no one adds weight unless they are trying to meet a minimum weight rule.

One other thing. Fiberglass doesn't rust :)
 
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I like both the Notch's and the Hatch's. I owned a 1990 LX 5.0 Hatch and loved that car. It depends on how the car is presented with accessories. My favorite looks for a Notch is with some nice 17 or 18" wheels, 4" cowl hood. and NO SPOILERS on a Notch. a Hatch I like the LX 5.0's the way they are and for the GT's its pretty much a must for a Cobra style rear bumper, wasn't much of a fan of the stock GT rear bumpers.

oh i dont know, it depends on the execution;

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oh i dont know, it depends on the execution;

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Yeah, they don't look bad, but I wouldn't personally put a spoiler on a Notch. I like a cowl hood make the front of the car big and then tapers down to the narrow trunk area. Its hard to explain, makes it look like a speeding bullet LOL. Just personal taste I guess.
 
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Yeah, they don't look bad, but I wouldn't personally put a spoiler on a Notch. I like a cowl hood make the front of the car big and then tapers down to the narrow trunk area. Its hard to explain, makes it look like a speeding bullet LOL. Just personal taste I guess.

like i say, its all in the execution of the look that one is going for. and if you dont like it, dont build yours that way, your choice.:nice:
 
How do you feel about the convertibles as I am in the market for a new fox? Seems there's nothing but convertibles for sale right now, fairly priced too.

It depends on what your goal is and where you live. I'm in South Florida, and I'm not racing it so the vert makes sense. Up North as a DD, or if you plan on racing it, I'd look for a notch. This is my 3rd fox vert. You need to add subframes at a minimum as they flex like a pretzel without them and are prone to the dreaded cowl shake. A strut brace is also a good piece to add.

Know that with any vert, plan on a new top ($1000 ish) every 5-7 years.

IMO there is nothing better than on a nice sunny day dropping the top and driving down A1A.
 
It depends on what your goal is and where you live. I'm in South Florida, and I'm not racing it so the vert makes sense. Up North as a DD, or if you plan on racing it, I'd look for a notch. This is my 3rd fox vert. You need to add subframes at a minimum as they flex like a pretzel without them and are prone to the dreaded cowl shake. A strut brace is also a good piece to add.

Know that with any vert, plan on a new top ($1000 ish) every 5-7 years.

IMO there is nothing better than on a nice sunny day dropping the top and driving down A1A.
If I lived in the south I'd def own a convertible.