Gonna Build A Drag Car?...may As Well Crush Them Now.

I usually bring a trailer to the track whether the car will make it or not. It's an hour and a half to either track and I'd be in a tight spot if I broke something. Plus I can bring coolers, chairs, etc in the truck.


Everyone's opinion differs, that's why we each have our own cars to play with. Can you imagine if stangnet had one car and we had to vote on mods?
 
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There isn't anything wrong with putting one on a trailer when it will make it on the street. It seems every time we DON'T trailer one it gets pist and something stupid breaks that requires us to go back 1 hour and get said trailer. That just puts a damper on the evening. As stated above, if the trailer is there with you all you have to do is load it up and open said cooler and say f-it. :)

I am not a fan of drag only cars to own, love to watch them but think the "street" cars that rip off 7's and 8's and blow the doors off of drag only cars.

Also, my 2012 ran 12.60's very consistent, more then enough to paddle some of these clapped out "drag" cars, with the shaker tunes blasting, leather and an auto to boot. It's hard to beat new cars for fast streetability. Slap a blower, tires and a few supporting mods and run low 10's, high 9's in some cases (turbo cars). It's insane. To do that in an old pushrod fox takes some serious bank. Now you can compare/contrast all day and both have about the same money in them if you figure the cost of a new coyote etc... I'll end my rant as I'm not entirely sure where I was going with that. Other than build what you want and if you can afford it (not miss house payments etc) then do it. I would LOVE to have a drag car, street car and circle track cars (all dedicated). But I live in the real world and don't have that much jack. :)
 
Here's my opinion on this -

Some guys are just drag racers. That's what they do and will always do.

Then theres guys that say, "oh that's cool! I wanna do that!" They build a car, realize they cant drive it on the street or its not as fun on the street and lose interest. I think the thread is aimed at this, am I correct?

yup... im a drag racer.
i got my car with the plans of going fast and being streetable.
the plan is to go fast still but the streetable i through out the window a long time ago. found it was cheaper to go fast if its not as streetable. my budget has went to hell when i bought a house and got married. so for now i get my speed fix off making the race cars go stupid fast.
 
yup... im a drag racer.
i got my car with the plans of going fast and being streetable.
the plan is to go fast still but the streetable i through out the window a long time ago. found it was cheaper to go fast if its not as streetable. my budget has went to hell when i bought a house and got married. so for now i get my speed fix off making the race cars go stupid fast.

threw*

Ex: I threw it out through the window.

:leaving:
 
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I have 3 Mustangs. Each fills a different need. The 01' V-6 car gets great gas mileage, looks good and has a/c, p/s, stereo ect. perfect DD type car. I have the 08' Bullitt as the weekend "hotrod" it puts down 325 whp and has all of the creature comforts and enough HP to really get yourself into trouble if you want. Then there is the 89' Saleen which is the dedicated drag car. Hope to be making passes this coming spring. It is the car that I wanted to be able to do all things equally well, but realized that it was not practical. I was tempted to supercharge the Bullitt, but realized that on the street you could never actually use all of the power and was thus a waste of time and money for a street car. So I left it N/A and very streetable. You can actually go WOT out of a corner and hook and go instead of creating massive amounts of tire smoke or unwanted donuts in the middle of the street. It is respectable power wise (runs 12.8's in the 1/4) and does not kill me at the pump.
 
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There is a massive budget difference in building a gutted/lightweight race car to go 11.0 vs a full weight street car to go 11.0 and I think that needs considered hard before folks make comments about race cars should go 7.0 and faster. Racing, and speed are directly related to budget, and at a certain point going faster when money has dried up (or met your breaking point) means making the decision to strip a vehicle to go faster. Again, not for me but I definitely understand those that do just that.
Most the the regular Joe drag racers I know don't drive fast street cars as they get their speed fix at the track. Additionally, once you get accustomed to letting it all hang out at the track (a nice safe and controlled environment) the thrill of standing on it in the streets/public roads soon subsides. Also, regular Joe's typically do not have the money/time for 2 fast cars/projects.

There are some folks very high on their horse in here.
Stating your preference is totally understandable, saying anything otherwise is stupid is... well, stupid.
 
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yup... im a drag racer.
i got my car with the plans of going fast and being streetable.
the plan is to go fast still but the streetable i through out the window a long time ago. found it was cheaper to go fast if its not as streetable. my budget has went to hell when i bought a house and got married. so for now i get my speed fix off making the race cars go stupid fast.
Exactly that and more. The fiction of truly street-able 7-8 second streetcars has been perpetuated by internet wonder cars ( more fiction than fact) and super high budget truestreet/drag week competitors. Go ask what the budget of one of those guys cars is and you would be shocked... most easily spend over 100k,some approach200k.... My own experience with taking my 93 from a bone stock daily driver to a 9.0 track car can illustrate the issues of carrying/ maintaining street equipment for a quarter miler.
First and foremost weight is the enemy ...my car went from a 10.6 second street car to a 9.0 track car by removing 300pds of street equipment, mild increases in power, and changing to a purpose built transmission from a street transmission. Second street equipment is expensive to maintain. That expense is multiplied by the increase hp needed to haul it down the track and the issues that weight creates to get the chassis to work(hook up).
Hauling a drag car to the track is a necessity. Most races are two day events or a distance from home. If you want to be competitive, taking tools, generators, cooling fans, and fuel etc is required...try getting all that in a fox body trunk!
Lastly far more foxbodies have been lost to street driving(accidents/neglect/scrapping) than drag racing conversions....many drag cars are actual saves from the wrecking yard... just because you don't like it or get it doesn't mean its bad. To each their own.
 
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Exactly that and more. The fiction of truly street-able 7-8 second streetcars has been perpetuated by internet wonder cars ( more fiction than fact) and super high budget truestreet/drag week competitors. Go ask what the budget of one of those guys cars is and you would be shocked... most easily spend over 100k,some approach200k.... My own experience with taking my 93 from a bone stock daily driver to a 9.0 track car can illustrate the issues of carrying/ maintaining street equipment for a quarter miler.
First and foremost weight is the enemy ...my car went from a 10.6 second street car to a 9.0 track car by removing 300pds of street equipment, mild increases in power, and changing to a purpose built transmission from a street transmission. Second street equipment is expensive to maintain. That expense is multiplied by the increase hp needed to haul it down the track and the issues that weight creates to get the chassis to work(hook up).
Hauling a drag car to the track is a necessity. Most races are two day events or a distance from home. If you want to be competitive, taking tools, generators, cooling fans, and fuel etc is required...try getting all that in a fox body trunk!
Lastly far more foxbodies have been lost to street driving(accidents/neglect/scrapping) than drag racing conversions....many drag cars are actual saves from the wrecking yard... just because you don't like it or get it doesn't mean its bad. To each their own.
PFFFT.:rolleyes:
http://www.theturboforums.com/threads/362857-1979-RX7-LS-5-3-S400SX3-(75mm)
These "examples" are all over the internet. (If this guy has 10k in the entire car, I'm Bill Gates)
He throws a JY LS in the car (documents it)
Goes after a 8 sec ET while driving the car to get it there, Shatters the stock Hypoucraptic piston in one hole, fragments the stock powdered metal rod in the other. (Documents that too)
Replaces the two damaged pieces w/ equally stock junk out of an entirely different JY engine, and proceeds to drive the 2850 LB car to the track and beat on it. ( AND Manages an 8.97 while doing so).

Mean while, there is nothing "pretty" about this car. Conversely, it's exactly the hack type drag racing I'm talking about.
I already qualified that a really nice drag car is sometimes better in the category it ended up in, but by far and away, most "drag cars" are wrecks that haven't happened yet, and even the pretty ones are just waiting for their appointment w/ MR. Right........turn into the wall.
It doesn't matter whether the car was towed or not really. Once the car becomes so obnoxious that the simple act of driving it to get it there is a hot, sweaty, noisy, smelly experience. Idles to the extent that it doesn't really "idle" at all.....and sports a bone jarring ride that rattles every single thing in the car (including your teeth), then it stops being a car.
 
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Exactly that and more. The fiction of truly street-able 7-8 second streetcars has been perpetuated by internet wonder cars ( more fiction than fact) and super high budget truestreet/drag week competitors. Go ask what the budget of one of those guys cars is and you would be shocked... most easily spend over 100k,some approach200k.... My own experience with taking my 93 from a bone stock daily driver to a 9.0 track car can illustrate the issues of carrying/ maintaining street equipment for a quarter miler.
First and foremost weight is the enemy ...my car went from a 10.6 second street car to a 9.0 track car by removing 300pds of street equipment, mild increases in power, and changing to a purpose built transmission from a street transmission. Second street equipment is expensive to maintain. That expense is multiplied by the increase hp needed to haul it down the track and the issues that weight creates to get the chassis to work(hook up).
Hauling a drag car to the track is a necessity. Most races are two day events or a distance from home. If you want to be competitive, taking tools, generators, cooling fans, and fuel etc is required...try getting all that in a fox body trunk!
Lastly far more foxbodies have been lost to street driving(accidents/neglect/scrapping) than drag racing conversions....many drag cars are actual saves from the wrecking yard... just because you don't like it or get it doesn't mean its bad. To each their own.
I have high hopes to make a presence in true street this year and while most of you will disagree my car is straight budget. I have no doubt that you all agree that it is ugly, lol. By no means do I have a fortune invested into my race/streeter. I would honestly like to see a 7 sec pass out of the car in t/s trim and know that I can make the power to do it. Keeping it together at that level after the cruise is going to be the hard part. Don't get me wrong, low 8 sec passes in my street will still suffice my need for speed! After crewing with Vinny for so many years ( NMCA True street record holder 7.70 average after 3 passes and 30 miles) I know what it takes to get these things done more so than I think most people. I had high hopes last year and fell flat on my face and having an accident that ended my season. On a budget but still back to play in the game. For the record, no where near the 100k mark, honestly less than half of that!
 
My fathers car went from street car to track only. It sits more often then not and he just bought a Corvette to take out on nice days and weekends. It's not quite ready for a crusher but it would take a bit to put it back on the street.

I've always been a fan of a street/track car. Don't see the need for a car that only gets brought to the track and back.
 
Most the the regular Joe drag racers I know don't drive fast street cars as they get their speed fix at the track. Additionally, once you get accustomed to letting it all hang out at the track (a nice safe and controlled environment) the thrill of standing on it in the streets/public roads soon subsides. Also, regular Joe's typically do not have the money/time for 2 fast cars/projects.

Not quite sure how I feel about this comment...

I'm the opposite. My street/strip car ran 155mph in the quarter, hoping for 170mph in 2014, but I'm still looking for ways to make my daily driver faster. I just can not get enough speed, regardless of where I'm driving.

I can relate to the problem with money/time for 2 projects though. Today I spent a couple hundred bucks on my 89... really wanted to spend it on my '11. :(
 
I guess I'll just make mine a fast street car or a slow drag car. 7-8 sec is the definition of a race car?? Come on...really? I think that definition is a little screwed. But whatever. I'm building my car. My way. With my money. And in general don't give a rats dimpled cheeks what anybody thinks. If it turns out the way I want it I'll be happy
 
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