Digital Tuning Taming The Timing Eating T4m0

yes it works with BE2012

you dont need eecanalyzer

the free xls that comes with BE is missing too much to discuss, i guarantee if you unplug your maf sensor your car wont run right

If you calibrate is correctly it will run perfectly fine without the maf, which isnt possible without the complete definition file from sailorbob
 
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I'd be happy to work with you when you get all set up. If it were me I wouldn't pull the trigger on the sailorbob thing just yet -- it's important to know if it works with the version of BE you want, and also to learn a little more about it. BE ships / installs with the "open source" publicly available strategies I mention. I realize it's only $25 and I appreciate your offer, but I hope to avoid having this get unnecessarily confusing for you starting out. You can swap over the strategy at absolutely any time (probably in seconds) and you lose nothing if you started out with the ones that come with BE. If you get QH&BE ordered and installed and get comfortable with it, you can decide to add the sailorbob strategy any time you think you're ready. No rush there -- I know it's tempting to just buy everything at once but I'd keep it as simple and minimal as possible. In my book $25 is $25, and "sailorbob" can toss me a screenshot if he thinks I should buy his product. :)
Yes, that makes sense. Thanks you for the input. Ok, to make sure, I should get the Moates, BE, and EecAnalyzer? This stuff is rather intimidating. I'd probably want to lean on guys like you to help me get started. The last time I programmed anything was back in 1983 when I had a Texas Instruments TI99 4A home computer. That was a long time ago.
 
No problem at all, ask any questions you might have along the way. If you could program a TI99 then this will be child's play. :)

You don't "need" EECAnalyzer (I don't have a license myself), but it can be valuable if you have the funds (I can say it's valuable because I've downloaded and messed with it but of course am limited by the license), and usually it's discounted if you buy it at the same time. Completely up to you, download it and play with it first to see if it's worth the price to you. For your mods in specific it might be good to get since we discussed the injector timing because of the cam.
 
No problem at all, ask any questions you might have along the way. If you could program a TI99 then this will be child's play. :)

You don't "need" EECAnalyzer (I don't have a license myself), but it can be valuable if you have the funds (I can say it's valuable because I've downloaded and messed with it but of course am limited by the license), and usually it's discounted if you buy it at the same time. Completely up to you, download it and play with it first to see if it's worth the price to you. For your mods in specific it might be good to get since we discussed the injector timing because of the cam.
Heya jozsefsz. I have another question for you. As I think more about the Moates and the Bama options I was wondering; is it still helpful to get the Moates w/o getting a wide band O2?
 
I had my Moates for a few years before getting a wideband. You can make all the adjustments without it, though it is helpful to validate you've done things correctly. The Bama option won't have that validation either. Personally I wouldn't worry about a wideband too much unless you were planning something radical or going with forced induction. It's always nice to have (you can get a nice Innovate kit for around $150 on eBay), but not really required.
 
I had my Moates for a few years before getting a wideband. You can make all the adjustments without it, though it is helpful to validate you've done things correctly. The Bama option won't have that validation either. Personally I wouldn't worry about a wideband too much unless you were planning something radical or going with forced induction. It's always nice to have (you can get a nice Innovate kit for around $150 on eBay), but not really required.
Thank you. Thats helpful to know. Currently i'm doing things like changing the fluid in the gear box, replacing the power steering pump/lines, and paying off LARGE medical bills. However, I'll keep you updated on the tuner option.

How are you doing with the tuning? Any new findings?
 
I look forward to your updates. I'm jealous of your weather - I was in CA about a decade ago in February and it was just beautiful all the time - 70's & sunny with low humidity. I'd move out of here in a heartbeat if it weren't for the cost of living. I haven't spent 30 minutes in the garage since Thanksgiving, we've had endless snow & cold so I don't feel good about putting my '95 out on the driveway (my main project right now is a '78 II v6 for which I'm going to custom fabricate a turbo setup, my '95 is 'done' for now ready to be handed off to my son in a couple of years). What I really need is a huge heated workshop though. :)
 
I look forward to your updates. I'm jealous of your weather - I was in CA about a decade ago in February and it was just beautiful all the time - 70's & sunny with low humidity. I'd move out of here in a heartbeat if it weren't for the cost of living. I haven't spent 30 minutes in the garage since Thanksgiving, we've had endless snow & cold so I don't feel good about putting my '95 out on the driveway (my main project right now is a '78 II v6 for which I'm going to custom fabricate a turbo setup, my '95 is 'done' for now ready to be handed off to my son in a couple of years). What I really need is a huge heated workshop though. :)
jozsefsz, I hear you on the weather. We are only out here (CA) for me to complete my seminary education. We moved out here from CT. We know all about snow and I feel your pain, man. I'd like to be kept up to date on your '78 turbo project.

I think its awesome that you will hand your '95 over to your son. My father got me all excited about cars with his '65 GTO stories. Anyhow, I will keep you up to date on the tuning ideas.