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I drove my heep over to maple grove for AM show too was amazing seeing all them stangs there. must have missed you there bro your car is looking good!
I seen your. car looking good as always . they had us in the back against the fence on the grass opposite of where you were i was passed seeing as I pre registered and guys who didn't had much better parking then us
 
Up in the air here . I feel at this point I have a balance issue with the motor .

Do I turn around and have the motor punched out .30 over re balanced , rods checked etc ? Do I take it and throw a. stroker kit in it ? -
Even though I do not believe in a stock block with good stuff because the block is still the weak point especially with a boosted setup . Or dart block it ?

My goal has always been a 5xx horse street car that's it that's all this car will ever be I don't want a full race car but spending 4500 on a bottom end - I am not sure is in the cards for me money wise What do my followers here say ? I need opinions
 
If you go Dart, you'll never have to worry about something giving out when your foot is in the carpet. That was my biggest fear when I had my stock block. Keep your eyes open for deals online. I got my longblock new second hand for almost half of what it would cost new from an engine builder. The owner decided to do a Coyote swap instead. There are alway deals to be had.
 
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If you go Dart, you'll never have to worry about something giving out when your foot is in the carpet. That was my biggest fear when I had my stock block. Keep your eyes open for deals online. I got my longblock new second hand for almost half of what it would cost new from an engine builder. The owner decided to do a Coyote swap instead. There are alway deals to be had.
This is true thanks for the input I appreciate it bro
 
I agree with the dart block build. Never have to worry again. I've vowed to never build another stock block engine. Unless it's just a typical h/c/i-under 6000rpm combo why bother? I understand about affordability (I still haven't ordered mine after 2 years of saving). At 500 hp I'd be worried every time I laid into it and why have 500hp if you never enjoy that extra power
 
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I agree with the dart block build. Never have to worry again. I've vowed to never build another stock block engine. Unless it's just a typical h/c/i-under 6000rpm combo why bother? I understand about affordability (I still haven't ordered mine after 2 years of saving). At 500 hp I'd be worried every time I laid into it and why have 500hp if you never enjoy that extra power

That's why whenever someome asks about building a street motor, I normally tell them to just get a used explorer motor and swap out the cam, oil pump, gaskets and bearings- if they want a long block, swap out the springs. That way when you do blow it up, you have about $500 into it vs. the $3000 most guys spend on a "built" shortblock that will last as long. These stock blocks are pretty stout despite the bashing they get. They will normally take up to 450hp before nailbiting takes place.

I remember years back Mark Oneal once said that a main stud girdle on a stock block was there to keep the parts in place after they break, not to stop anything from breaking. lol

Jeff, if you are thinking about rebuilding your short block, don't waste your time and money on the 306. You can build a 331 for the same money . I wouldn't go with forged cranks, rods, and pistons. A decent stroker kit from CHP would be more than enough to outlast the block.
 
That's why whenever someome asks about building a street motor, I normally tell them to just get a used explorer motor and swap out the cam, oil pump, gaskets and bearings- if they want a long block, swap out the springs. That way when you do blow it up, you have about $500 into it vs. the $3000 most guys spend on a "built" shortblock that will last as long. These stock blocks are pretty stout despite the bashing they get. They will normally take up to 450hp before nailbiting takes place.

I remember years back Mark Oneal once said that a main stud girdle on a stock block was there to keep the parts in place after they break, not to stop anything from breaking. lol

Jeff, if you are thinking about rebuilding your short block, don't waste your time and money on the 306. You can build a 331 for the same money . I wouldn't go with forged cranks, rods, and pistons. A decent stroker kit from CHP would be more than enough to outlast the block.
I agree that they are ok up to a point. But he is talking about "edge" of reliability of the block IMO @ 500 blown hp. I just would spend the extra on a solid shortblock and never worry about the possibility of the block cracking. How many times do we see these posts on the forums about after the fact " should've bought a dart block"? I've seen it a lot. Just my opinion I personally would upgrade and "forget about it"
 
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That's why whenever someome asks about building a street motor, I normally tell them to just get a used explorer motor and swap out the cam, oil pump, gaskets and bearings- if they want a long block, swap out the springs. That way when you do blow it up, you have about $500 into it vs. the $3000 most guys spend on a "built" shortblock that will last as long. These stock blocks are pretty stout despite the bashing they get. They will normally take up to 450hp before nailbiting takes place.

I remember years back Mark Oneal once said that a main stud girdle on a stock block was there to keep the parts in place after they break, not to stop anything from breaking. lol

Jeff, if you are thinking about rebuilding your short block, don't waste your time and money on the 306. You can build a 331 for the same money . I wouldn't go with forged cranks, rods, and pistons. A decent stroker kit from CHP would be more than enough to outlast the block.

I was honestly at the point of an exp short and putting my stuff on it just to run it for a while . the non forged piston scares me . I planned on having the blower upgraded tbis winter and making 10-12lbs as that's what I always wanted initially . I am up in the air 4k is big coin right now for me esp after the expensive winter I had with this car .Then the other side of me says :leghump: it CHP 331 stock block with a girdle for 2800 and let this thing rock out until it kaputs
 
Jeff if you can wait drive the car the way it is save your money and just do it right...when I drive my car im boosting 14 psi it scares me ..LOL...mine is a stock bottom end...yes its hanging in there but you never know...im to the point im never going to finish my car ....just enough to have fun with it...I would rather put my money into something else right now....
 
Just drive it the way it is and save your money for it. Buy the block and start getting it built while driving the car and then transfer everything over when the short block is finished and ready. Then upgrade your S/C.
 
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yeah idk I may be getting a retro check from work I am on the job a year already this dec out if contract so that's 3,50 an hour plus my
over time that may do tbe motor the vibration just bothers me and if it lets go I don't want to hurt my heads either . idk well see what's next