Drivetrain Rear Howl - Whine

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Hey everyone, I got a situation that I am not sure on what it could be. I have a 94 gt, with what I was told to have 373 gears. The car howls and whines from mid second gear to 5th. I have read that it could be that they didn't shim it correctly to the bearing. I have thought about draining the rear end grease and see if that helps (deep purple?) But I don't know enough about mustangs and that gear set up. The kid I got it from said it was normal to make noise. It don't grind, and still slides when you get on it but I don't want to break anything.. lol

At this point, thoughts and idea's would help so I am not throwing money at it!
 
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You could be correct. A rear end will howl when there's too little backlash between the ring and pinion. It has to be a little bit loose or you'll get that nice howl once you start moving. For some, it's worse when accelerating, for some it's worse when decelerating / coasting. If it's worse when the rear end is hot (after you've been driving for a while), it might point to the backlash setting (gears tighten as they get warmer).

Backlash problems can be cause by shimming the carrier poorly left-to-right, and also if the pinion depth hasn't been shimmed properly front to back. Or a combination of the two.

It's pretty easy to check backlash with a proper (magnetic mount) dial indicator. This can be done by just removing the differential cover, draining the grease, and measuring the motion.

You can also check the contact pattern of the gears with some marking compound (in a pinch anti-seize or zinc oxide creme (like diaper rash creme)) will also work. But you have to know what to look for. It's also important to see if you have some bad wear, incorrectly set backlash can chew up the gears pretty quickly.

There are other things that can cause a rear to howl - bearings (pinion, carrier, or wheel), road noise from aggressive tires, even exhaust drone.

If I had to guess, since the gears are aftermarket, they were probably installed poorly. It's generally a job for the pros, though if you're mechanically inclined it's not all that hard to do. If you're not experienced, it may be better to have a good, trusted shop take a look for you. I definitely wouldn't throw money at it because the noise could be from a lot of causes.

Generally (very generally) rear end noises don't much respond to a lubrication change. Unless it's very contaminated, the wrong viscosity, or wrong type (no friction modifier in a limited slip for example). But long story short, the fluid has to come out if the noise is coming from the diff, and you (or a skilled mechanic) can determine whether it needs more work before filling it back up again.
 
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I will have to check it tomorrow. I do know it's coming from the differential - It only howls and whines when you give it gas. The kid I got it from said its normal for them to make noise. I don't have a lot of tools, so I might have to have a buddy help me check and see or maybe take it to a performance shop and have them look.
 
Rear end noise is not normal after a rear gear change.
it was set up improperly.

A rear end rebuild can be done at home, but requires a few special tools and time.

You and your buddy can take a look, but you'll probably need to take it in for a rebuild.
 
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The only things I can add are Deep Purple is a rock band made of old guys. Royal Purple is a brand of expensive, synthetic oil. The main thing the lube will do is keep the limited slip clutches from chattering with the right friction modifying additive. That is not a likely problem in a straight line without wheel spin.

Get it checked out before you chew up a bearing worse or mess up gear teeth.

You could be correct. A rear end will howl when there's too little backlash between the ring and pinion. It has to be a little bit loose or you'll get that nice howl once you start moving. For some, it's worse when accelerating, for some it's worse when decelerating / coasting. If it's worse when the rear end is hot (after you've been driving for a while), it might point to the backlash setting (gears tighten as they get warmer).

Backlash problems can be cause by shimming the carrier poorly left-to-right, and also if the pinion depth hasn't been shimmed properly front to back. Or a combination of the two.

It's pretty easy to check backlash with a proper (magnetic mount) dial indicator. This can be done by just removing the differential cover, draining the grease, and measuring the motion.

You can also check the contact pattern of the gears with some marking compound (in a pinch anti-seize or zinc oxide creme (like diaper rash creme)) will also work. But you have to know what to look for. It's also important to see if you have some bad wear, incorrectly set backlash can chew up the gears pretty quickly.

There are other things that can cause a rear to howl - bearings (pinion, carrier, or wheel), road noise from aggressive tires, even exhaust drone.

If I had to guess, since the gears are aftermarket, they were probably installed poorly. It's generally a job for the pros, though if you're mechanically inclined it's not all that hard to do. If you're not experienced, it may be better to have a good, trusted shop take a look for you. I definitely wouldn't throw money at it because the noise could be from a lot of causes.

Generally (very generally) rear end noises don't much respond to a lubrication change. Unless it's very contaminated, the wrong viscosity, or wrong type (no friction modifier in a limited slip for example). But long story short, the fluid has to come out if the noise is coming from the diff, and you (or a skilled mechanic) can determine whether it needs more work before filling it back up again.
 
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The only things I can add are Deep Purple is a rock band made of old guys. Royal Purple is a brand of expensive, synthetic oil. The main thing the lube will do is keep the limited slip clutches from chattering with the right friction modifying additive. That is not a likely problem in a straight line without wheel spin.

Get it checked out before you chew up a bearing worse or mess up gear teeth.

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