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I am.new here an I just got my 1st foxbody mustang gt it's a 1993 pretty much stock besides full exhaust an cold air intake I'm looking to make it alot faster but not sure where to start or what kinda set up to run I would like to run mid to low 12s an got about 1500 to 2500 to spend if anyone could point me in the right direction I would really appreciate it thanks
 
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Far too many people put a dab of this and a dollop of that, and then wonder why the car doesn't run worth beans. Then they think off the shelf computer chips will fix their mismatched parts problem. It won't You have to have a plan for what kind of performance you want: Hot street. Street/Strip, Pure strip, Autocross or Road course. Each one requires a different strategy and a different set of components.. Mismatch the components and you’ll have a car that falls flat on its face when you demand performance.
Everyone thinks HP! HP! HP! and thinks that peak HP is what they need. Peak HP is great for a drag strip car when it has the proper gears and tires to get the car up into the high RPM range where it develops that high peak HP near the finish line. On a street car, that strategy will have Honda Accords outrunning you, because you will never get the engine RPMs high enough without running over everything in your path.
Here’ the strategy: Always remember that there are some tradeoffs in any engine combination. Most of us don’t have enough money to “have it all” as if it was possible by some masterful combination of parts and tuning.
The following recommendations are for 5 Speed Manual transmission cars without NO2 or pressurized induction, stock short block.
1.) Hot street: Broad flat torque curve, high velocity airflow in the intake and heads for best throttle response. Gears suitable for reasonable gas mileage and long road trips without excessive engine RPMs. Stand on the gas pedal from a rolling start to squeeze into that gap in traffic in front of you, and it jumps quick and hard to get you there. Max RPM’s are 5200-5500 RPM for best power. Lopey cams may sound cool, but run poorly in a low RPM street environment.
Use stock cam, stock, GT40 or mildly ported stock heads, Cobra or Explorer/GT40 intake, advanced timing, stock 19 lb injectors, stock fuel pump. Use some good 1.6 or 1.7 ratio roller rockers for extra punch. Use a King Cobra clutch, with stock iron or steel billet flywheel. MAF cars can use a 65 MM TB from the Explorer intake manifold and a 70MM MAF from a 94-95 Mustang. Drive train: 3:55 gears with soft tread compound tires. Use some Ford Racing unequal length headers, stock 2 1/4” cat pipe and some mufflers that don’t drone or get too much attention from the law enforcement or neighbors. The stock computer will handle all this with no problems and doesn’t need any help in 90% of the cases. No skinny or grossly undersize tires for the front: remember you still have to stop quickly in traffic. Make sure all the rubber bushings in the front and rear suspensions are in first class shape. Leave the emissions equipment intact and working. Removing or disabling it won’t get you any more HP or performance. Do not convert to carb or remove A/C: either one will reduce the resale value. Carb conversions cannot be titled for street use or get tags in some places. They definitely won’t pass smog inspections.

Street/strip: A little more slope to the torque curve with a gently sloping peak. Use slightly larger port volumes on intake and heads for more peak HP. Uses 3.55 or 3.73 gears to get the RPM’s up into a higher range quicker. Be prepared to sacrifice some low RPM throttle response in exchange for high RPM power. This by necessity will be a Mass Air or Mass Air conversion on 86-88 5.0 Mustangs, since stock speed density will not run well with the changes in engine airflow. Don’t get too crazy on any one engine part since you still have to drive the car on the street, and a mismatch can make street driving miserable.
Use stock or mild aftermarket cam, Ported GT 40, or 165-180 CC port volume aftermarket aluminum heads. Use a Trick Flow, Edelbrock Performer or equal intake manifold. Take a 73 MM aftermarket MAF calibrated for 24 lb injectors, and 24 lb injectors, 155 LPH fuel pump, Kirban adjustable fuel pressure regulator. Be prepared to shell out some $$$ for a custom burned chip using data gathered from a dyno run. Mass market chips will not get the job done. Use some Ford Racing unequal length headers, aftermarket 2 1/2” cat pipe and some mufflers that don’t drone or get too much attention from the law enforcement or neighbors. Drivetrain: expect the stock T5 to fail, so save your money for a super duty 5 speed trans. Tremec 3550, TKO 500 & TKO 600 are the best choices. Different gears in a stock T5 case work for some, but there is only so much power you can pass through a T5 in race mode before it breaks, even with stronger gears. Next are the Chassis mods: full length subframe connectors, different springs, different shocks, aftermarket lower and upper control arms with rubber or urethane bushings. Buy all the parts from someplace like Maximum Motorsports, Griggs or Steeda as a kit so that you know that all the parts fit and don’t argue with each other. Carry spare tires and wheels for the drag strip: skinnys for the front and drag radials for the rear. No skinnys for street driving! Over 85% of the breaking power is generated by the front tires, so skinnys won’t do the job in a panic stop situation. Disconnect the front anti-roll bar at the strip; reconnect it before you drive home. Leave the emissions equipment intact and working. Removing or disabling it won’t get you any more HP or performance. Do not convert to carb or remove A/C: either one will reduce the resale value. Carb conversions cannot be titled for street use or get tags in some places. They definitely won’t pass smog inspections.

Strip only: High RPM, High flow heads (185-215 CC port volume), wild cam, high flow intake manifold, 70 MM or larger TB, 80 MM or lager MAF, strip everything out of the car that doesn’t make it go faster. Carbs are OK if that’s what you want, but remember that as the temp/humidity/ barometric pressure/altitude changes, you have to re-jet and readjust the carb. EFI eliminates most of that with its built in compensation or you can tune of the fly with a high end Motes or Tweecer system combined with a wide band air/fuel ratio meter. Use custom headers, dumps and minimal mufflers. How fast you can go on 5 liters is a function of the skill level of the driver/mechanic and the size of your wallet.

TRAILER the car to the race track since it won’t be legal to drive it on the street. Drag slicks in the rear, skinnys up front, use 3.73 or bigger gears (4.xx) in the rear axle. Since you won’t be driving on long trips, the big gears with work with the high RPM power curve to get the best results. Drivetrain: TKO 500 & TKO 600 are the best choices. Different gears in a stock T5 case work for some, but there is only so much power you can pass through a T5 in race mode before it breaks, even with stronger gears. Next are the Chassis mods: full length subframe connectors, different springs, different shocks, aftermarket lower and upper control arms with rubber or urethane bushings. Buy all the parts from someplace like Maximum Motorsports, Griggs or Steeda as a kit so that you know that all the parts fit and don’t argue with each other. Remove the front sway bar, put an airbag in the rear spring of the side that spins the tire the most. Plan on a roll cage if you are truly serious about going fast: most strips will require it once you get to a certain ET range.

Autocross is a combination of Hot street engine and street strip chassis prep. The engine must accelerate quickly from low RPM and needs a broad, flat torque curve. Next are the Chassis mods: full length subframe connectors, different springs, different shocks, aftermarket lower and upper control arms with rubber or urethane bushings. Buy all the parts from someplace like Maximum Motorsports, Griggs or Steeda as a kit so that you know that all the parts fit and don’t argue with each other. Most of the time you’ll never hit third gear, so some 3.73 or bigger gears (4.xx) may help a lot. You’ll have to spend some more money on brakes since it kills brakes quickly. Rear disks, larger rotors up front, stainless steel brake lines, different brake pads. A 87-88 T Bird Turbo Coupe or SN 95 rear axle will be your best bet. Autocross will severely strain 1st & 2nd gears, so your T5 may take a premature dump. Save your money for a super duty 5 speed trans. Tremec 3550, TKO 500 & TKO 600 are the best choices.

All out road race is the most difficult of all: an engine that will run at high rpm hour after hour and never fail, yet pull hard out of the hairpin turns that will require a lot of torque at lower RPMs. In my opinion, guys that can successfully build a winning road race engine are the cream of the crop. Top this off with a chassis built for strip only duty, but with changes to the settings of springs, tires, roll bars brakes and shocks. It’s a whole other world of racing.
You’ll have to spend lots more money on brakes since it kills brakes quickly. Rear disks, larger rotors up front, stainless steel brake lines, different brake pads. Air ducting to cool the brake rotors will be a must. The brake rotors of cars on a high speed road course glow red after several hard laps of racing. Drivetrain: TKO 500 & TKO 600, and T56 close ratio are the best tra
 
I am.new here an I just got my 1st foxbody mustang gt it's a 1993 pretty much stock besides full exhaust an cold air intake I'm looking to make it alot faster but not sure where to start or what kinda set up to run I would like to run mid to low 12s an got about 1500 to 2500 to spend if anyone could point me in the right direction I would really appreciate it thanks

What's been done to it as far as suspension goes? Brakes?

Before adding power you need the car to be able to handle it first.
1) Is car running well? Check for codes? Recent tune up?
2) Maximum Motorsports full length subframes, keeps the body from twisting under hard acceleration. Only $130, weld them in!!
3) Torque box reinforcements, stock boxes can tear under hard launches. Common problem. Only $40+ fix.
4) Maximum motorsports brake upgrade kit, $200'ish.

Now on to HP. With only $2,500 max budget (you need a few more bucks honestly) I recommend a Vortech supercharger with the fuel management unit and a set of 3.55 or 3.73 gears. Make sure your trac-lok posi clutches are good for max traction. When you get a bigger budget you can purchase a top end kit which will run you just north of $4k (including fuel pump, injectors, MAF, TB) assuming you do all the work yourself.

Good luck, post some pics of your ride.
 
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What's been done to it as far as suspension goes? Brakes?

Before adding power you need the car to be able to handle it first.
1) Is car running well? Check for codes? Recent tune up?
2) Maximum Motorsports full length subframes, keeps the body from twisting under hard acceleration. Only $130, weld them in!!
3) Torque box reinforcements, stock boxes can tear under hard launches. Common problem. Only $40+ fix.
4) Maximum motorsports brake upgrade kit, $200'ish.

Now on to HP. With only $2,500 max budget (you need a few more bucks honestly) I recommend a Vortech supercharger with the fuel management unit and a set of 3.55 or 3.73 gears. Make sure your trac-lok posi clutches are good for max traction. When you get a bigger budget you can purchase a top end kit which will run you just north of $4k (including fuel pump, injectors, MAF, TB) assuming you do all the work yourself.

Good luck, post some pics of your ride.
The car is lowered but pretty much all stock suspension an stock brakes but I'm gonna Change that for sure an I been looking into maybe putting the gt40p heads on it an running 373 gears I wanna get a cam not sure which one yet
 
Unless you get a really good deal on a set of GT-40 heads that have already been reconditioned and upgraded then I wouldn't do that. Buying explorer heads used, then having to get them checked out and re-worked can cost several hundreds of dollars, especially if you port them and put larger valves in them. I started down that path and then sold them and went aluminum for just a few hundred dollars more. I'd rather see you get aluminum heads and cut cost on the intake then the other way around. Do it once and do it right.

A good HCI (heads, cam & intake) complete and ready to run will be about $4k and will net you about +/- 300rwhp if you have a 5spd trans (T5). The GT-40 setup can be had for $2k'ish depending on how good of deals you get and you can get +/-250-275 rwhp out of it. You have to remember that the HCI is best supported by adding a bigger throttle body, fuel injectors and matching larger MAF, high flow in tank fuel pump and once that's all done a tune is recommended but not mandatory.

A GT-40 top end with the right suspension, gears and sticky tires can get you into the high 12's I think if you are a good driver. You could always add some spray or a super charger down the road.
 
Thanks for the help I'll have to look into finding a good set of aluminum heads never really thought about the cost of having to put into a set of used gt40s if u don't mind me asking what r u running ?
 
It is not easy on that tight a budget but it can be done. Google "Bob Cosby's 12 second recipe". He made it about 20 + years ago back when he raced Mustangs and was on the Corral- it works.

Some things I can think of off the top of my head.
Lighten up the car as much as possible- retain the P/S, A/C and safety devices-
Subframe connectors
3.73 gears
good shifter
Either a ZEX nitrous kit or used Vortech
K&N filter
don't bother with headers unless you get long tubes with stock heads and even then maybe 20 hp combined with a good cat back and mufflers. Not worth the $4-500


AT THE TRACK ONLY
short belt
16 degrees
remove the front sway bar
run skinny tires up front- el cheapo way is to use stock spare tire rims with real tires on them
Good set of drag radials or slicks with proper air pressure
Take everything yhou can out of the car- spare tires, jack, passenger seat, rear seat.
Ice the intake down
drive it like you stole it

Prepare for something to break- axle, clutch most likely
 
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I am.new here an I just got my 1st foxbody mustang gt it's a 1993 pretty much stock besides full exhaust an cold air intake I'm looking to make it alot faster but not sure where to start or what kinda set up to run I would like to run mid to low 12s an got about 1500 to 2500 to spend if anyone could point me in the right direction I would really appreciate it thanks
As far as power goes the cheapest route is going to be the Vortech w fmu ect like was mentioned earlier. It'll get you around the 300 rear horse range and it new kit will be run around $3k. No tune is required but I wouldn't run one with out it. I have that kit and the first dyno pull was way lean and it made 241 hp. After tuning it made 332. So figure in another $500 or so for a tune. As far as track e/t goes I have no clue what it'll run. Are you willing to strip down the car and drive the dogsht outta it to reach 12's? If so you can get there w less power. A lot of et is determined by driver skills and suspension.
 
If you really want to run a 12 as cheap as possible=nitrous! I had a completely stock engine/trans struts,shocks,etc with gears,subframes,rear control arms,some Hoosier bias ply dot "cheater slicks" and a nitrous system. Went bottom 12's@117mph
 
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I think the N2O was leaking into the cab, :)
It was a lot of nitrous lol. I made a lot of money with that car. Nobody believed me then so I wouldn't expect to many would now either. Btw it ran 13.80 without(12.10's w/an old NOS 150 kit(with different jets than what came with the kit :)) that 89 ran 14.9-15.0's completely bone stock right from the dealership. The old Goodyear gator backs really stunk for traction. The old MM&FF 10sec tuneup Was the first thing I did. That car is the reason I fell in love with these cars. Guess we never forget our "first"!;)

My 86 only ran 12.30's with a 150 shot and more mods. 13.60's without.