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Without quad shocks, even a 4 cyl and manual tranny can really wheel hop. It is very fun to watch until you think what it has to be doing to the parts. All you have to do is fill up the air shocks and dump the clutch with a little breaking pressure. It is like a b ball dribbling contest.
Which brings the serious points. The more parallel to the floor pan/ground the lower arm is, I predict the less wheel hop you will get. If you get stiff enough bushings to not need the quads, what is the chance of increasing suspension binding? Old bushings are bad, but rock hard ones do not twist well in corners, then we argue about what brand of better stuff to go with.
Which brings the serious points. The more parallel to the floor pan/ground the lower arm is, I predict the less wheel hop you will get. If you get stiff enough bushings to not need the quads, what is the chance of increasing suspension binding? Old bushings are bad, but rock hard ones do not twist well in corners, then we argue about what brand of better stuff to go with.
Yeah here it comes: "these tore my torque boxes, well I had the same ones and they didn't tear mine," etc etc. I do hear that the axel side bushing that MM sells is a re-branded of some house brand, just thought I'd throw that out there. Here's a link, it's not where I originally read it but it's been covered in a few forums. Maximum Motorsports and Ford bushing
Not necessarily.
I have MM arms, and still had wheel hope. I bought new quads and installed them and problem was gone.
LCA's are not the end-all solution. If you can fit the quad shocks, you should run them regardless.
Put the quad shocks back on if you took them off or don’t have them installed.
The quad shocks are a roll of the dice. No matter what the combination of tires, control arms and shocks, some cars will wheel hop without quad shocks and some won't. There are so many variables in 34-18 year old cars with wear, misalignment and combinations of suspension components and tires that one unchanging answer won't work for everyone.
I personally would install them, and make sure they are in good shape. I do know this, that Ford is cheap. If they could have made changes in some simple component like bushings or control arm construction and saved $10, they would have done it. Multiply $10 times all the Fox body Mustangs ever made and you would be almost as rich as Donald Trump. That's a lot of $$$, and good incentive to engineer something to do away with the quad shocks.
The quad shocks are a roll of the dice. No matter what the combination of tires, control arms and shocks, some cars will wheel hop without quad shocks and some won't. There are so many variables in 34-18 year old cars with wear, misalignment and combinations of suspension components and tires that one unchanging answer won't work for everyone.
I personally would install them, and make sure they are in good shape. I do know this, that Ford is cheap. If they could have made changes in some simple component like bushings or control arm construction and saved $10, they would have done it. Multiply $10 times all the Fox body Mustangs ever made and you would be almost as rich as Donald Trump. That's a lot of $$$, and good incentive to engineer something to do away with the quad shocks.
Detroiit
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Detroiit
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Quad Shocks are old technology and there fore absolute! Throw them away and go WID#E!
Detroiit
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Gabriel 14039 Steering Damper:Amazon:Automotive
It's listed as a steering damper but it's used as oem replacement quad shocks. Parts stores sometime still have them but don't ask for a quad shock, give them the gabiel part #. And yes, these can be flipped for tire clearance.
It's listed as a steering damper but it's used as oem replacement quad shocks. Parts stores sometime still have them but don't ask for a quad shock, give them the gabiel part #. And yes, these can be flipped for tire clearance.
7upstang91
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UPR upper and lower control arms here...took the quad shocks off for weight saving. Cut 1.60 60s, no hop at all.
Saved 4 pounds. But at least you upgraded control arms I guess. I've heard of guys removing them to save the 4-5 pounds w stock arms. Oh brother... @hoopty5.0
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7upstang91
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I was being sarcastic. But the point was in most cases quad shocks don't work. I could never tell a difference with them on or off at any power level or suspension setup I had.
But every three pounds eventually adds up.
Whether or not quads help or not, is unique to each car, not many here run the same control arms, same springs, same tires and same shocks. It's a combination of parts. I've had wheel hop and not had wheel hop, never did truly figure what it was, sometimes it still happens, but it's tolerable.
If they can fit, by default imo you run them.
I think we all get the point, some people don't need them, but assuming nobody does and suggesting to ditch them instead of experimenting with and without them is kinda arrogant.
If they can fit, by default imo you run them.
I think we all get the point, some people don't need them, but assuming nobody does and suggesting to ditch them instead of experimenting with and without them is kinda arrogant.
Was kidding about the taking a crap thing too.
Although I did know a guy who did that before making passes at the track. Wondered what the hell he was eating....
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Although I did know a guy who did that before making passes at the track. Wondered what the hell he was eating....
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