Turbo Vs Nos

Paul98

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So I have a decision to make with my 2001. What I need from here is pros and cons with both turbo and nos. Price isn't the deciding factor I am very patient and willing to save and scrounge for what I need. Would really appreciate any info thank you.
 
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I am assuming this is a street car....

Turbo is ready anytime you want to play....once spooled up....
NOS needs the bottle opened, cooled, filled...

What about a supercharger.....no lag ready all the time and the whine can be intimadating to some...
 
Turbo is way more money and a lot more complicated than NOS, but its there all the time. Turbos are more expensive than any of the other mods once priced out. NOS being the cheapest bang for the buck. Superchargers are also cheaper because they allow you to keep most other parts. Turbos will wear your pockets out with all the little stuff that isn't in the kits...all the heat wrap, relocations, and supporting mods.
 
I drive a 2000 F150 Lightning....love that supercharger.....low maintenance.....always ready to play.....thinking of one for my 2002 Mustang also but gotta get the cash availble first.

Also drive a 2011 F150 3.5 TT ecoboost.....hate that turbo lag but once it is in, it does move down the road. Still prefer the supercharger.

To me, NOS seems more useful on the track. Playing on the street seems to short lived to gain the benefit of it.
 
If you are having a shop do the install and tune, see what they prefer and are most comfortable dealing with. If you are doing the install, read up on different kits to see what you are comfortable with.

There are numerous brands that are good, just research and see what you like best.
 
I drive a 2000 F150 Lightning....love that supercharger.....low maintenance.....always ready to play.....thinking of one for my 2002 Mustang also but gotta get the cash availble first.

Also drive a 2011 F150 3.5 TT ecoboost.....hate that turbo lag but once it is in, it does move down the road. Still prefer the supercharger.

To me, NOS seems more useful on the track. Playing on the street seems to short lived to gain the benefit of it.
The 3.5 ecoboost has NO lag!
 
The 3.5 ecoboost has NO lag!
That's not true at all. They're dead as a door nail until you roll the out about a truck length to get them spooled up and they're also lazy until the turbos spool up when you want to pass. They may have "reduced" lag compared to some other turbo vehicles out there, but it's still there.

I've driven many turbo set ups that claim no lag, only to feel it, like every other one I've ever driven. You need an awfully small turbo in order to reduce lag so much that you don't notice it… And at that point that little turbo doesn't make the horsepower turbo fanatics all desire.

Go take a car for a ride that has a positive displacement supercharger on it sometime… Then you'll see with no lag is like.
 
That's not true at all. They're dead as a door nail until you roll the out about a truck length to get them spooled up and they're also lazy until the turbos spool up when you want to pass. They may have "reduced" lag compared to some other turbo vehicles out there, but it's still there.

I've driven many turbo set ups that claim no lag, only to feel it, like every other one I've ever driven. You need an awfully small turbo in order to reduce lag so much that you don't notice it… And at that point that little turbo doesn't make the horsepower turbo fanatics all desire.

Go take a car for a ride that has a positive displacement supercharger on it sometime… Then you'll see with no lag is like.
ive had positive displacement cars: 03 lighthing/ Tork Tech kit on my car.

I have also owned two 3.5 ecoboosts... neither had ANY lag. One had 3.73s and the other has 3.55s

The whole point of twins is to reduce/eliminate lag.

Hell, my current setup on my mustang barely has any noticeable lag
 
A "properly" sized twin scroll turbo will still produce a lag... "properly" being capable of 1 bar./14.7psi max..

I drove the ecoboost f150 and the mustang. Both had lag.

My PD supercharged mustang has no lag, I can build boost at 1k rpm.
 
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ive had positive displacement cars: 03 lighthing/ Tork Tech kit on my car.

I have also owned two 3.5 ecoboosts... neither had ANY lag. One had 3.73s and the other has 3.55s

The whole point of twins is to reduce/eliminate lag.

Hell, my current setup on my mustang barely has any noticeable lag
Try not to take this the wrong way, but If you aren't feeling turbo lag in an Ecoboost F150, then I have to question whether or not you actually recognize what it is? I've driven MANY Ecoboost F150's and they've all got measurable amounts of it, that is easily felt. They're virtually a dead pedal until they spool up.....then they hit like a hammer. You can feel it from a dead stop when you have to roll it out a truck to a truck and half length before it comes on and also when attempting to pass. As a matter of fact, I drove the 5.0L TiVCT and Ecoboost F150's quite literally back to back and the 5.0L, while not as powerful, was far more responsive on the throttle. Stab the 5.0L to the floor from a stop, or on the highway, it takes right off. Do the same with the Ecoboost and you can literally get to the end of a "one....two" count before the turbo's build enough manifold pressure to lay it down......then its REALLY takes right off!

Blowers on the other hand, have ZERO lag (even centrifugal's). That's something that can't be claimed with a turbo setup, no matter who designed it. It's just the nature of the beast. The turbo no matter how small, or how well engineered is ALWAYS a restriction in the system until the exhaust can spool up with enough force to overcome it.

The PD blowers start making power almost instantly. From a dead punch, I used to start seeing boost at about 900RPM with my old Eaton and was seeing 90% by about 2,300RPM....and it was only pulleyed for about 9-10psi. Throttle response was literally instant. That's why people compare positive displacement charged cars, to big block swaps. The power, (much like a big cube engine) is quite literally "on demand" at the flick of your right foot.

On the other hand, the best engineered turbo set ups out there don't even start making boost by that RPM....let alone max it out.

There's no arguing that max available power will be achieved with the turbo....but drivability still goes to the blower.
 
I dont recognize the lag at all but i indeed do know what it is. Now, that being said, of course its not as punchy as a Twin screw/Roots/Centri but the lag to me is barely noticeable.