I like both cars. Both of them are fast and have potential. The GTO is 7-8k more than the GT so I need justification to wether or not I should get the GTO or GT? So far, the only difference that leans me more to the GTO is the bigger engine, 53-47 weight ratio, IRS, and a few more goodies the 05 will have over the 04. I want something that can handle well, I'm not all about straight line and mustangs are known for mostly straight line. Since mustangs won't have IRS anymore, does that mean the GTO would be better in the twisties? I know this is a Mustang forum, but try not to be bias. Put yourself in my position and forget that you have a stang. The appearance of both cars seem pretty bland but I like the 05 GTO better (headlighs and the rear seem better than the stang) so lets leave out the appearance. Thanks guys.