tjredgt2000, thanks for the quick response. Can you can really go anywhere you want with those snow tires. I have an 88 thunderbird turbo coupe now and low profile tires and after last winter ive had enough messing around, almost wrecked it twice, and could barely get up a hill, (600rpm almost stalling to not spin the rear tires and holding the brake pedal). I consider myself a good driver (drove 1/4 midgets since i was 8) but in the snow and ice only so much you can do. My dad doesnt seem to have to much trouble with his new 330 BMW (almost 50/50 wieght ratio), which made me hope the more 50/50 front to rear wieght with the new mustang would help. Thanks for the insite guess i just need the convincing I know alot of people that drive trucks and think im crazy for not having one. I also live in southeast pa, chester county. I hear ya about tirerack i love that place, I guess I know my car just plain sucks in the snow no matter what tires and if I wreck it, even tho its in excellent condition with mods, it wont be worth fixing (according to the blue book).