Progress Thread 1967 Fastback Project

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  1. Ryan Miller

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    Should I jack up the rear frame rails?

    I have had it on the jig the entire time before the old quarters were taken off.

    The pass rear quarter where it meets the trunk/window filler is a about 1/8 inch high too. The driver side is good. I have the frame level from side to side.

    That is about all I can think of right now.
     
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    Mark your jig first then raise it ,that way you can return to where you were
    but it sounds like it is sagging . i replaced quarters on a 67 fast back that had one rail bent down due to rear end damage and it fit the same way .When i raised the frame rail where it was supposed to be the quarter fit. it was about 1/2 inch down
     
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    OK, will do tomorrow morning and report back.

    As you probably read in my build thread on the front end - I know 1/4-1/2 inch can make a big difference on sheet metal alignment.

    Thanks!

    :bang:
     
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    OK, so I:

    1. jacked the rear of the frame rails up some and it did not seem to do much

    So I started looking around and decided to make darn sure that nothing could be interfering with the fit up front, so I:

    2. Then ended up trimming a little more off the front edge of the quarter at the window edge gutter up at the front of the quarter panel/roof overlap

    3. and cut another spot weld up higher there

    4. then trimmed just a little off the front top of the quarter where it meets the drip rail and the top

    5. lastly I cut the spot welds loose on the drip rail at the back and gently bent it forward out of the way.

    Now it fits a lot better and more even fit. It still doesn't want to just fall into place, and it takes some massaging, however I think it will work there.

    Right now I am working on getting that trunk to quarter corner to fit up better. I have made some relief cuts and now working on getting the fit better. I also adjusted the deck lid a little more up slightly which helped too.

    Will post some more photos later today as hopefully it will look better.

    Thanks for the advice! It really helps to have some help when I am too blind to see things straight! :doh:
     
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    NOW I am trying to get the quarters to fit around the deck lid.

    I made the cut that a friend of mine does to fix the longer quarter at the filler panel to get the gap closer. I just spot welded it for now. It usually welds and cleans up nicely.

    My biggest problem is the curvature of the rear quarters is 1/4 or more above the deck lid corners and the deck lid comes very close to bottoming out.

    I worked on it for hours and hours today and even started making relief cuts to try and reshape that corner.

    Right now I want to throw these out and order Dynacorn. Nate at Thoroughbred GT told me he had revised the corners and the length issues to make things fit better, but I think the guys at the warehouse gave me an older pair that don't have the revisions.

    I am discouraged now and wasted several days on these "edited for content (BLEEPED OUT)" panels.

    The last photo looks bad, but it is like when you are doing surgery and all the guts are out, it looks bad, but I haven't warped the exterior panel.... yet.

    :bang::doh::dammit::hide:

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    Just the exact opposite of the Dynacorn panels, the trunk lid corners hit high and the quarters were low .I placed a wood block under the trunk corners in the quarters and raised it with a porta power. It fit really well after and made no dents.
    I see what you mean about the lines not being crisp enough ,Diss like . Those are almost round . The Dynacorn are a lot sharper ,you can see the lines . IMG_3087.JPG IMG_3132.JPG
     
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    Jim,

    I am pretty certain these are not the revised panels Nate at Thoroughbred GT told me about. I picked up the panels in Lewisville, TX just north of me at the Golden Star Automotive warehouse. I think the guys there gave me the older panels by mistake. They were very friendly so I am going to call them and Nate tomorrow and see what the (bleep) happened.

    If I don't get very far, I will drive over to Dallas Mustang and get a pair of Dynacorn in silver weld thru primer.

    What a waste of time and money!

    Are there any other issues you normally have with Dynacorn rear quarter panels?
     
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    Just the length difference of about 1/8 inch and a little low at the trunk corners ,they were actually very nice .Good crisp lines and the problems were easy to fix.
    Edit .. the spot welds needed to be drilled at the end down low where the end cap sets ,where the quarter ends are spot welded to the quarter .the bottom of the quarter turned out just a bit,
    it was easy to fix.
     
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    Hey. It has been a while since my last update. I moved back to Kansas last May and bought a business. I have been really busy, but now I have a shop to work out of. I am moving the car/parts in and going to get back to work on the 67 Fastback this spring.
    My doors were rotted along the bottom and dented some. I was just looking at them and debating on buying new door shells. Does anyone know how the new ones look? Is the grain pattern in the ball park, do they require a lot of work. I know that there are only one set of tool/dies so it is probably more a matter of how good the quality control was in Taiwan that week.

    any advice would be appreciated.

    Ryan
     
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    I did a set of 67 doors not long ago ,the grain is very light compared to an original door .I had to go through two pass side doors to get a good one .The first one did not fit .
     
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    I don't know if I posted this, but here is a photo of the final fix on the rear quarter adjustment. The car is at my dad's at a friend's shop and we ended up pushing the rear hinge area up just a bit and then did some final metal messaging to get the panel to line up with the trunk lid.

    Here is the photo of moving the trunk hinge corner up just a bit - did not take much.
    Both rear quarters are now set and welded in. Now to finish the body work on the roof panel to quarter and some roof panel areas.

    After that it should be close to paint - except for the doors.

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