one last thing. my wife thinks the last post is right about me. she thinks i am a jackass also. WTF. those dyno numbers are what i expect from an ss. they are goos numbers, but not the rediculous numbers posted everywhere about teh mighty LS. you torque curve demonstrates my point about VCT advantages. i make max torque at 2900 and hold it to 5000. good dyno. i am sure it is fast. but not unbeatable as others say. thank you for your feedback.