24 Lb Injectors

Discussion in '1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk-' started by John Dirks Jr, Dec 22, 2013.

  1. NIKwoaC

    NIKwoaC 中國製造

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    If you don't know who he is, Decipha is a damn tuning wizard. There are ways to cheat undersized injectors, and people do it every day, but there are a lot of corners that people cut with these cars across the board.

    Plus I think Decipha is talking rear wheel and you're talking crank.
     
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    NIKwoaC 中國製造

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    Also, my $.02: anyone with non-stock heads should consider a wideband O2 sensor and gauge. They are kind of expensive, but without it, you're just guessing.
     
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    f8tlfiveo My wife likes my spool and blow-off valve.

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    Yeah, I have first hand experience, he tuned my last car. And as soon as I get my ass in gear he is gonna do my car again. Do your research before making assumptions.
     
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    mikestang63 Mustang Master

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    If he's talking RWHP then yes, he is correct. Appreciate the clarification and again, no offense was being made and no assumptions either.
     
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  5. John Dirks Jr

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    With regard to leaning out at WOT, are there symptoms that a driver would notice and if so, what would they be?

    Otherwise, how would you determine of you are leaning out at WOT?
     
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    Popping and pinging at wot. Without a wideband or being strapped to a fund there is no real way to know for sure.
     
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    srtthis the guy doing it does every local racers rear end

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    do a wot pull and shut it off and coast. pull the plugs and look at them.
    need fresh plugs to get a good reading.
     
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  8. f8tlfiveo

    f8tlfiveo My wife likes my spool and blow-off valve.

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    +1 for wideband..
     
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    Tell ya what I'll do. I'll swap the heads (new TFS springs included) intake, TB and switch to the 1.7 roller rocker arms. I'll put it all back together with the 19lb injectors, give the setup some time to adjust then take it in for a dyno pull.

    We'll see what the tuners data says and take it from there.

    Merry Christmas everyone. Be safe out there whatever you're doing.
     
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    I'm getting to like the wideband O2 idea. I'm the type that likes a hands on approach. The ability to see what's happening and make periodic adjustments to A/F ratio is something I'm interested in.

    What are the recommended kits?
     
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  11. srtthis

    srtthis the guy doing it does every local racers rear end

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    im a fan of the fast dual wideband set up. that way you can watch each bank
     
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    That sounds more expensive. Btw, how would you address each bank individually if they were unbalanced.

    What is an entry level type kit that is viable and more on the affordable side?
     
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    I mean, I expect to make various changes to setup over time. So being able to see what's going on and adjust is the idea.

    Stuff like- ok, time to change injectors, or raise/lower fuel pressure.
     
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  14. f8tlfiveo

    f8tlfiveo My wife likes my spool and blow-off valve.

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    160-200$ on eBay.. I have an aem kit I got for 160$, and I had a innovate lc-1 i used on my last car I paid 190$ either will be fine. Your not driving a full blown race car
     
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    This one looks affordable too.

    Innovate Motorsports 3795 DB BLUE Complete Wideband Gauge Kit (2 1/16 52mm) with LC-1, O2 Sensor, Bung and Plug
    http://amzn.com/B001QFH2RW
     
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  17. srtthis

    srtthis the guy doing it does every local racers rear end

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    AEM FJO or the LC1

    the fast is about 400 bucks
     
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  18. f8tlfiveo

    f8tlfiveo My wife likes my spool and blow-off valve.

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    This is the one I had on my old car. Worked good
     
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    f8tlfiveo My wife likes my spool and blow-off valve.

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    I recommend the ntk afx, its the most accurate low priced wideband money can buy

    A close second is the aem

    be sure no matter which wbo2 you get that you get it with a DIGITAL gauge ONLY
     
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