Discussion in '2005 - 2014 Specific V6 Tech' started by brodude2002, Jul 22, 2005.
i know the manual says to only use 87, but will using 93 hurt the engine?
wont hurt it but i dont think it will help it, unless you get it tuned for 93 octane
I think MM&FF tested the GT and gained 2.5hp using 91 over 87 without a tune.
is 2.5hp worth the extra cost of gas though?
Testing showed a 5hp increase in power using 93 over 87 octane gas.
93 is 20 cents more per gallon than 87, so if i were completely empty and had to fill all 16 gallons, that 20 cents x 16 is $3.20 more. not to mention from experience, 93 ocatnce is more efficient, and i usually get better mpg count using 93.
Yes it also gets metter gas mileage, like 2-3mpg. But over 16 gallons, thats a max of 48 more miles, which if you are gettin decent gas mileage in your car, might be worth it, but if you are gettin 16mpg, and with 93 you are getting 17mpg. its not worth the extra dough. Here 91 is $0.20 more, 93 you have to mix 100 with 91 (obviously not half and half)
I love living in georgia.. 93 is the common top line octane in gas stations. So easy to find, andusually only around 20 cents more. The lowest octane my cars ever had was $5.00 worth of 91 octane when they were out of 93 and I had been driving on empty for two days already. Even after only that little gas, I could tell the difference. The car just didnt feel as peppy or to pull as hard as it usually did.
i am going to have to try the higher octane for a tank or two..
Very interesting thread! I tested this out before, and my car actually seemed to pull less with the higher octane... Anyone know why that may happen? Perhaps mine was more inclined to follow the 87 only rule?
how much of the lower octane did u have left in ur tank when u filled it with the higher octane gas? i filled my tank with 93 when my tank was completely empty,to get the full effect.
My meager understading of this process is somthing like this:
The octane rating of gasoline tells us how much the fuel can be compressed before it spontaneously ignites. When gas ignites by compression rather than because of the spark from the spark plug, it causes knocking or early detonation in the engine and subsequent loss of HP. Lower-octane gas, like 87-octane gasoline, can handle the least amount of compression before igniting.
The compression ratio of the engine determines the octane rating of the gas we use in the car. One way to increase the horsepower of an engine of a given displacement is to increase its compression ratio. Higher compression ratio engines require higher-octane fuel. The advantage of a high compression ratio is that it gives the engine a higher horsepower rating for a given engine weight. The differences in compression ratios on 05 Stangs are relatively small, but the room for the process (our Bore and Stroke specifications are large). Those with the V-8 can handle a change in octane better than the V-6 due to the size of the compression area.
Compression Ratio V-6 9.7:1 9.8:1
Bore and Stroke (in.) V-8 3.95 x 3.32 3.6 X 3.6
Higher compression ratios produce more power, up to a point. The more you compress the air/fuel mixture, however, the more likely it is to spontaneously burst into flame (before the spark plug ignites it). Higher-octane gasoline prevents this sort of early combustion. The higher the compression ratio the higher the octane gasoline needed for proper combustion. However, the other 3 aspects of the reciprocation need to follow the laws of engineering and phyics to perform optimumly.
Given the modulation of the Stang, changes in intake/combustion/compression/exhaust will cause an issue with the proper cycle of reciprocating internal combustion.
So, in a hand basket there is the dissertation on combustion relative to octane ratios in the engine. (God I am such a frekin’ nerd!)
NOONE WANTS TO ADD ANYTHING ELSE? I feel like a thread killer.
Thread killer? Maybe all that greek made sense to him and he was extremely enlightened
Okay. It just seems like....... Jenn Posts = Thread stop. I am noticing a pattern and I don't want to seem like a know-it-all thread killer...
No worries Jenn, I still blame you
jenn- what does all that u posted mean?
In regards to compression and the use of higher octane.
Okay, I made up a quick little illustration to help all the visualization learners. I made the notations of pretty much what I was trying to say. A picture is worth a thousand words. >> Add too high octane without changing when the spark plug makes the explosion in the piston chamber and you set up a potential for early detonation and loss of HP. The car is designed for 87, stick to it unless you plan on a chip to tell the computer when to fire the spark plug (timing based on the compression stroke of the piston in the cylinder.) or one of the other items noted. There are a few more options, but, I think I have already gone way too far.
BTW - GTs can compensate a little better since they are using a different CAM set-up that can change within a set of variables sort of like VTEC, but there is not a separate exhaust CAM.
Here is my lame illustration.
Does this help?
Most do Sweetie.. Most Do!
BTW.. are you a sixer or an eighter?
just where are you going with this.