A Novel Idea. Register non-gun owners

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  1. sphinx Founding Member

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    I think I just might have to move......

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  2. rbohm Founding Member

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    not a bad idea, but i will go one better, have the states register the criminals as well.
  3. 6Stang7 New Member

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    I love shooting as much as the next guy, but that's utterly retarded.
  4. jikelly Well-Known Member

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    Um, there are a lot of people who I don't want armed. Some people are just to emotional and irresponsible to be gun owners.

    The article did give me a good laugh though.
  5. Dusstbuster I love meat more than anything! I just have a spec

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    Implementation: Extreme

    Concept: Great!
  6. grey5.0beast Cookies should never be DUNKED!!!

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    Kennesaw, GA has a city ordinance that every individual must own at least 1 firearm. And I don't need the gov't to tell me I need to prepare and I don't want them to know my status of preparation.
  7. D.Hearne Banned

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    Who said anything about requiring those people to own guns ? And after yesterday's shooting at Ft. Hood Texas, maybe it's about time to disarm the military too ? :stupid:
  8. jikelly Well-Known Member

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    We need to do better by our service people. The shootings in Ft Hood will hopefully shed some light on that fact and get this country focused on actually providing our soldiers with the resources and support they need.
  9. MeanMike New Member

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    Indiana has an old law that say's you have too own a gun too own a home, or something along those line's. Allthough I know this law is'nt enforced.
  10. D.Hearne Banned

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    :shrug: Another vague reply typical of a liberal. What is it that they're lacking, other than a Commander-in-Chief who lacks leadership qualities ? :rolleyes: The reason this massacre happened was due to two things. One was the fact that the perp was a home grown Muslim terrorist, bent on carrying out a sucide mission (which he failed carrying out the last part)the second is the fact that our soldiers are not allowed to go armed on base at all times. Same thing happened back in the 90's in neighboring Killeen Tx. Only back then it was the fact that the public at large wasn't allowed to carry concealed firearms. That's since been rectified. :nice: The military hierarchy doesn't trust our guys to go armed at home, that needs to be changed.
  11. jikelly Well-Known Member

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    What is it they are lacking? Tell you what, if you see a vet thank him for his service and then tell your congress person to do more for our men and women in uniform and for those after they return. The need is unchanged by the recent attack at Ft. Hood.

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  12. RookieOne Founding Member

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    The implication of this statement is that you believe that there is something that the soldiers need, that they are not getting that would have prevented this violence at Ft Hood.

    What exactly were they lacking that would have prevented this event?
  13. jikelly Well-Known Member

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    Someone to talk to? An advocate?

    The shooter at Ft. Hood clearly had issues. His issues were not taken seriously and a lot of innocent people got hurt. I'm not defending the guy, or saying he's not responsible for his actions. I'm saying that we need to do better by our service people in many ways.
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    I'm sorry, I don't know exactly why, but the reaction to blame the system for "not getting the soldiers what they need" rubs me the wrong way....

    There is no one to blame for this except for the individual firing the gun. There is nothing that would have stopped this, except to run his ass out of the Army or a FMJ through his head as soon as the shooting started. The dude gave away all his possessions and clean out his belongings and arranged to have his apartment cleaned TODAY, because he was "leaving"

    The mere statement

    inherently alleviates some of the blame from him, and I find that down right offensive to all those that were killed or traumatized in the incident. It's a cop-out, and a weak excuse for diverting attention from something as truly vile and evil as what happened at Ft Hood.

    Not sure why I'm in such a punchy mood today...but I am......

    /Rant Off
  15. jikelly Well-Known Member

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    I understand where you're coming from. I know that even if there were assistance available for this individual he may have still carried out his evil act. I didn't mean to excuse what he has done.

    Still, I hope that this draws attention to the plight of our service men and women and veterans and gets the Army moving on how to better support its members psychological needs.

    When I was in the Army it sometime felt like you were being run over by the system and there was no where to turn for support. There were a few incidents where soldiers snapped and lashed out after seeking assistance and being denied it by the chain of command.
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    You do realize he, the gunman, WAS an Army Psychiatrist? If anyone should have been equipped to deal with such issues, he should have been.
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    just because he was a psychiatrist doesnt mean he was immune to his issues. thats like saying physician heal thy self. i agree that sometimes the fine men and women in uniform get the short end of the stick, and that something does need to be done to help them.
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    Oh I have to hear what the nay sayers will bring as evidence that this guy is wrong. I can't wait I'm about to pee myself with excitement :banana:
  19. 90mustangGT I felt sorry for girls because

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    Making people have a permit and pay a fee to NOT own a gun is not any more stupid than charging someone a fee and have a permit to own a gun, considering that it is a constitutional right. A lot of what goverment chargers you and makes you do is really beyond ignorant and stupid, but we are used to it and have learned to accept such abuses as normal. It is normal for an abused person to accept thier abuse and even think it is their fault.
  20. sphinx Founding Member

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    Face it we've become a nation of whiners and sheep.

    Here's an example for one of the fees you mentioned, I don't know if its the same all over, but in Iowa if you are charged with a crime, any crime, you get a nice $60 court cost fee tacked on to it.
    Now even if you are found to be guilty or get the charges dropped, you're still on the hook for the $60 court cost.
    I could go one all day but, I'm going to stop here for now.

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