C&L MAF, Inlet tube, Intake Plenum, and BBK t/b

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  1. 03gtmustang

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    Im planning on getting the c&l maf, inlet tube, intake plenum, and a bbk t/b, but with the increased air flow ill need to upgrade my fuel injectors right? I dont want a chip yet so which fuel injectors would i get. If i dont get any injectors and i get all the c&l stuff my car will be running rich or lean right? Are upgraded injectors really necessary? What lbs should i get?

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    Got some new ideas....

    1. Tokico suspension kit
    C&L MAF
    C&L Inlet Tube
    C&L Intake Plenum
    BBK T/B

    2. Tokico suspension kit
    C&L MAF
    C&L Intake Plenum
    BBK T/B
    Trans-Go Shift Kit

    Idea 1 or idea 2??? Still need advice on those injectors.
     
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    You won't need bigger injectors with those mods. I would go with idea 2
     
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    If those are the only mods your stock injectors will be fine and I like option 2 also... :nice:
     
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    Will I need any kind of tune for these mods? MAF, T/b, intake plenum, shift kit...
     
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    I don't think so, I would wait until you get all your boltons done before you get your tune. Also make sure you get the C&L calibrated for the stock 19 lbs injectors.
     
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    FYI...you'll probably wind up running lean. I wound up running lean with similar mods and SES light got thrown. I put the stock MAF back on (with K&N filter inside and no silencer). I plan to put MAF back on when I get a tune this spring.
     
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    I actually ended up getting richer as a pose to getting more lean.

    I have the exact set up you're refering to in option #1.

    There are no worries about calibration for the C&L Maf for your car, feel free to snag the 85mm one for your year. It reuses your stock maf electronics.
     
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    Do you guys recomend these mods? If you could do it over again would you still go with the plenum, t/b, and maf?
     
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    I've put on the exact same mods minus the plenum(see sig) and have had no problems. Still using stock injectors. Just be sure to reset your comp. and to give it a few driving cycles to relearn the changes. BTW car still averages 23.5 to 25.6 MPG.
     
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    Is the inlet tube really worth it???
     
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    Personally, I get stuff in conjunction, just because I'm weird like that, so I wouldn't skip it myself and I think it's worth having a complete set rather than still using some stock parts in a series of mods that can easily go with each other. If that makes any sense.

    Performance wise, I wouldn't know, I threw on the C&L Plenum, Intake Pipe, 85mm MAF, BBK 75mm TB at the same time.

    I guess it's worth it, though, apparently my numbers are a little higher than what most would expect.
     
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    Not sure, since I bought and installed all at the same time. When I bought the stuff it came as part of the package, so I figured what the heck.
     
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    Yeah..... my overall goal is to get enough bolt ons to keep up with a stock 03 Mach 1. I think these mods plus what I have right now should do it for me??
     
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    Will I need new fuel injectors with the plenum, maf, t/b, and inlet tube?
     
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    No.
     
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    You will not keep up with a mach 1 with these mods, sorry to burst your bubble. You do need some LCAs and Subframes, maybe some UCAs.
     
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    if you are going to spend that much money get a set of cams and a tune, that is the direction i am heading. i actually got rid of my c&l maf
     
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    He has 21 lb injectors. Like was said before: the C/L uses the stock maf sensor
     
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    99+ comes with 19lb injectors stock. If you are planning on doing a shift kit maybe look into Jerry's mod first. Costs almost nothing. I think thats the way i would go if i had an auto. Also, may want to think about a gear. 4.10 would probably give you better results than dropping all the money on the C&L stuff. Just my .02. Good luck :nice:
     
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    yeah i got 4.10's with the transgo shift kit and it's astounding what a difference it made.

    also, when I do my head swap, i'll be getting the C&L plenum and 75mm tb. i've already got the C&L maf with a homemade denscharger CAI and I noticed a nice little SOTP gain. More than what people say it gives (which they say is nothing). My timeslips proved the naysayers wrong. :D
     
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