can I use a 1990 lx 5.0 ECM in my 92 gt 5.0 harness?

Cant seem to find any reasoning for my gt to be running like crap, so im wondering if it is possible to use a 90 lx 5.0 computer in my 92 gt 5.0 harness to hopefully fix my problem with the car not staying running. I cant see spending 365.00 bucks on a ecm if its not the problem... just wondering if i can use the 90 ecm for a ginny pig?
Three weeks being down on the stang, cant take much more of not having it running! Anyone have any suggestions on if this will work or not?
 
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I wouldn't go for the computer just yet...what's it doing? Have you pulled codes? looked for bad grounds? cleaned connectors/MAF/TB, checked for vacuum leaks? There's a ton of things in front of replacing a computer-even if it's only to slave one in...if the ECM is actually the problem, there may also be a wiring problem causing the ECM to go south...

What is your setup, what are the symptoms, and what if anything have you done to attempt a remedy?
 
Computers seldom fail, usually it's a sensor or wiring problem.

Dump the codes: Codes may be present even if the Check Engine Light (CEL) isn't on.

Dumping the computer diagnostic codes on 86-95 Mustangs

Revised 26-July-2011. Added need to make sure the clutch is pressed when dumping codes.

Codes may be present even if the check engine light hasn’t come on, so be sure to check for them.

Here's the way to dump the computer codes with only a jumper wire or paper clip and the check engine light, or test light or voltmeter. I’ve used it for years, and it works great. You watch the flashing test lamp or Check Engine Light and count the flashes.

Post the codes you get and I will post 86-93 model 5.0 Mustang specific code definitions and fixes. I do not have a complete listing for 94-95 model 5.0 Mustangs at this time.

Be sure to turn off the A/C, and put the transmission in neutral when dumping the codes. On a manual transmission car, be sure to press the clutch to the floor.
Fail to do this and you will generate a code 67 and not be able to dump the Engine Running codes.

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If your car is an 86-88 stang, you'll have to use the test lamp or voltmeter method. There is no functional check engine light on the 86-88's except possibly the Cali Mass Air cars.

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The STI has a gray connector shell and a white/red wire. It comes from the same bundle of wires as the self test connector.

89 through 95 cars have a working Check Engine light. Watch it instead of using a test lamp.

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The STI has a gray connector shell and a white/red wire. It comes from the same bundle of wires as the self test connector.


WARNING!!! There is a single dark brown connector with a black/orange wire. It is the 12 volt power to the under the hood light. Do not jumper it to the computer test connector. If you do, you will damage the computer.

What to expect:
You should get a code 11 (two single flashes in succession). This says that the computer's internal workings are OK, and that the wiring to put the computer into diagnostic mode is good. No code 11 and you have some wiring problems. This is crucial: the same wire that provides the ground to dump the codes provides signal ground for the TPS, EGR, ACT and Map/Baro sensors. If it fails, you will have poor performance, economy and driveablity problems

Some codes have different answers if the engine is running from the answers that it has when the engine isn't running. It helps a lot to know if you had the engine running when you ran the test.

Dumping the Engine Running codes: The procedure is the same, you start the engine with the test jumper in place. Be sure the A/C is off, and clutch (if present) is pressed to the floor, and the transmission is in neutral. You'll get an 11, then a 4 and the engine will speed up to do the EGR test. After the engine speed decreases back to idle, it will dump the engine running codes.

Trouble codes are either 2 digit or 3 digit, there are no cars that use both 2 digit codes and 3 digit codes.

Alternate methods:
For those who are intimidated by all the wires & connections, see Actron® for what a typical hand scanner looks like. Normal retail price is about $30 or so at AutoZone or Wal-Mart.

Or for a nicer scanner see Equus - Digital Ford Code Reader (3145) – It has a 3 digit LCD display so that you don’t have to count flashes or beeps.. Cost is $30.
 

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I was waiting for you to chime in...:D

well i cant pull codes, because i dont have a scanner and i cant get the car to run long enough to get it to autozone or anywhere for them to test it. I have changed distributor 2 times, pulled egr valve and cleaned it all up and replaced gaskets. clean out filter to pcv and replaced the pcv, cant hear or find any vac leaks, but i have traced all hosing and did not see anything wrong. ive sprayed around intake and didnt change idle, so no leaks there. I have changed out coil, checked all wires that i could manage to get to for cracks, burns etc. didnt see anything bad. i regrounded my MAF sensor directly to the housing in case the ground was bad (another rememdy someone did that worked for them, but did nothing on my end) all my wires are good. cap looks fine, replaced rotor. cleaned cap contacts- just in case they were weak from the lil build up i seen on them. I have pulled the ign mod and checked all my wires there and they looked fine. I have good fuel pressure. checked the valve and it blasts right out of there. i cant literally see what psi im getting, but its a strong blast. I checked 02 sensor for broken lead wire or anything loose, that was fine... I pulled the ECM and checked wires and ground to it, and only noticed a very small amount of corrosion around one of the capasitors, so i carefully cleaned that off. the board looked good otherwise. I have swapped the two relays for the fuel pump and a/c. seemed no different after swapping them out. Other than all of this, i am at a loss of what to do next. It will start up, run anywhere from 6 to like 17 min and die. the idel drops a slight bit, and then the car just kicks off. Fuel pump will prime like normal when i first start it up, but when i try to re-start it the fuel pump will not stop running and the car wont start.
I dont know what to do next..... thats why i was thinking about using another ecm for a ginny pig, to see if that is the issue here. I can get the one im asking about for 50.00.... its cheaper than a reman. and money is tight for me right now... can u suggest anything else for me to try?
 
Computers seldom fail, usually it's a sensor or wiring problem.

Dump the codes: Codes may be present even if the Check Engine Light (CEL) isn't on.

Dumping the computer diagnostic codes on 86-95 Mustangs

Revised 26-July-2011. Added need to make sure the clutch is pressed when dumping codes.

Codes may be present even if the check engine light hasn’t come on, so be sure to check for them.

Here's the way to dump the computer codes with only a jumper wire or paper clip and the check engine light, or test light or voltmeter. I’ve used it for years, and it works great. You watch the flashing test lamp or Check Engine Light and count the flashes.

Post the codes you get and I will post 86-93 model 5.0 Mustang specific code definitions and fixes. I do not have a complete listing for 94-95 model 5.0 Mustangs at this time.

Be sure to turn off the A/C, and put the transmission in neutral when dumping the codes. On a manual transmission car, be sure to press the clutch to the floor.
Fail to do this and you will generate a code 67 and not be able to dump the Engine Running codes.

Underhoodpictures007-01.jpg


Underhoodpictures010.jpg


If your car is an 86-88 stang, you'll have to use the test lamp or voltmeter method. There is no functional check engine light on the 86-88's except possibly the Cali Mass Air cars.

attachment.php


The STI has a gray connector shell and a white/red wire. It comes from the same bundle of wires as the self test connector.

89 through 95 cars have a working Check Engine light. Watch it instead of using a test lamp.

attachment.php


The STI has a gray connector shell and a white/red wire. It comes from the same bundle of wires as the self test connector.


WARNING!!! There is a single dark brown connector with a black/orange wire. It is the 12 volt power to the under the hood light. Do not jumper it to the computer test connector. If you do, you will damage the computer.

What to expect:
You should get a code 11 (two single flashes in succession). This says that the computer's internal workings are OK, and that the wiring to put the computer into diagnostic mode is good. No code 11 and you have some wiring problems. This is crucial: the same wire that provides the ground to dump the codes provides signal ground for the TPS, EGR, ACT and Map/Baro sensors. If it fails, you will have poor performance, economy and driveablity problems

Some codes have different answers if the engine is running from the answers that it has when the engine isn't running. It helps a lot to know if you had the engine running when you ran the test.

Dumping the Engine Running codes: The procedure is the same, you start the engine with the test jumper in place. Be sure the A/C is off, and clutch (if present) is pressed to the floor, and the transmission is in neutral. You'll get an 11, then a 4 and the engine will speed up to do the EGR test. After the engine speed decreases back to idle, it will dump the engine running codes.

Trouble codes are either 2 digit or 3 digit, there are no cars that use both 2 digit codes and 3 digit codes.

Alternate methods:
For those who are intimidated by all the wires & connections, see Actron® for what a typical hand scanner looks like. Normal retail price is about $30 or so at AutoZone or Wal-Mart.

Or for a nicer scanner see Equus - Digital Ford Code Reader (3145) – It has a 3 digit LCD display so that you don’t have to count flashes or beeps.. Cost is $30.

this is simple enough for me to do, thanks! i will let you know what code i pull from it.
 

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Hey sorry about that Ruthann, I really meant the "chiming in" part for jrichker-he's usually really good about posting up the procedures for troubleshooting tons of typical problems...but I'll be glad to help if and where I can...
 
well i cant pull codes, because i dont have a scanner and i cant get the car to run long enough to get it to autozone or anywhere for them to test it. I have changed distributor 2 times, pulled egr valve and cleaned it all up and replaced gaskets. clean out filter to pcv and replaced the pcv, cant hear or find any vac leaks, but i have traced all hosing and did not see anything wrong. ive sprayed around intake and didnt change idle, so no leaks there. I have changed out coil, checked all wires that i could manage to get to for cracks, burns etc. didnt see anything bad. i regrounded my MAF sensor directly to the housing in case the ground was bad (another rememdy someone did that worked for them, but did nothing on my end) all my wires are good. cap looks fine, replaced rotor. cleaned cap contacts- just in case they were weak from the lil build up i seen on them. I have pulled the ign mod and checked all my wires there and they looked fine. I have good fuel pressure. checked the valve and it blasts right out of there. i cant literally see what psi im getting, but its a strong blast. I checked 02 sensor for broken lead wire or anything loose, that was fine... I pulled the ECM and checked wires and ground to it, and only noticed a very small amount of corrosion around one of the capasitors, so i carefully cleaned that off. the board looked good otherwise. I have swapped the two relays for the fuel pump and a/c. seemed no different after swapping them out. Other than all of this, i am at a loss of what to do next. It will start up, run anywhere from 6 to like 17 min and die. the idel drops a slight bit, and then the car just kicks off. Fuel pump will prime like normal when i first start it up, but when i try to re-start it the fuel pump will not stop running and the car wont start.
I dont know what to do next..... thats why i was thinking about using another ecm for a ginny pig, to see if that is the issue here. I can get the one im asking about for 50.00.... its cheaper than a reman. and money is tight for me right now... can u suggest anything else for me to try?

OK, seems as though you've run a pretty good little battery of tests, but I'm with jrichker, it's probably not the ecm. You might just have a connection getting jostled just so and creating a bad signal or something like that. Whenever you get some codes out of it, just go from there